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try following twostroke on your first ride.LOL
2014 - SkiDoo Summit or RMK Pro for a noob?
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Before you plunk down a wad of cash, ride each one of them. They are both great machines and you can't go wrong either way. My son rides a Pro and I have an XM. To me the XM just feels better and he thinks the same of his Pro. Ride em both, buy the one you like the best and have a great time this winter.
Best advice right here.
the pro is light and has a great chassis, 50 pounds is a big weight savings. the doo ride is much better and the etec engine is second to none. you can't go wrong with either, since i'm riding my doo again this year that must be the better of the two
The advice about the best Dealer is key. Go into both your local shops, kick a few tracks, and see what happens and which one gives you the best initial service. Ask your riding friends what they think about each Shop/Dealer as well. Sales Service is one thing, but Mechanical/Shop Service is another, and the Sales Service is the easy part. Taking care of a Customer/Sled AFTER they got your money is the hard part where many Dealers fail.
Also, since you're a experienced Dirt Bike rider, the XM is a little more stand-up/rider forward oriented than the Pro, IMO.
Good Luck. You really can't go wrong with any of the new Mountain Sleds, including the 14 Cat. (Did I say that out loud?!)
Also, since you're a experienced Dirt Bike rider, the XM is a little more stand-up/rider forward oriented than the Pro, IMO.
Good Luck. You really can't go wrong with any of the new Mountain Sleds, including the 14 Cat. (Did I say that out loud?!)
Lol he will have me stuck in a tree in 5 minutes.
Both are great sleds. I've had every year of pros and loved them. I am trying a xm this year for the sake of something different. I do believe you will have an easier time on the xm if you are inexperienced. You don't notice the extra weight until the xm is stuck. I think the xm has a better motor but I never had any trouble with the pro and one was turboed. I think there will be times where I wish I had one versus the other. The 13 pro was the first legitimate mountain sled that you didn't have to do anything to to have fun. I will see If I feel the same about the xm.
I own a 2013 Pro 163, but if I was to do it again I would go 155, they turn tighter in the trees for little you gain in floatation, as well the shorter track will turn better on the trail then a 163. The doo's and the cat's are hard to beat on the hill so if having the highest mark on the hill is a priority then the PRO may not be the answer. But I have been more than happy with mine.
But above all else chose the dealer with the best service, its not a matter of if, but when you will need service, so for me that would be the deciding factor.
But above all else chose the dealer with the best service, its not a matter of if, but when you will need service, so for me that would be the deciding factor.
Both are good sleds. Both have had issues although it seems the Poo issues have been more consistent. I think the Pro feels more dirt bike feeling myself as it is slimmer all around. The motor is smooth on the XM and the Pro gets up on the snow really well. If you are looking to get something used there are ton of Pro's to choose from and not near as many XM's as they just came out last year. I'd do one of each!
Reliability
I'm going to agree with Matte Murder. The Pro is the best in Burandt style riding, and honestly, you probably won't be doing too much of that for the first year or two.
Also, the reliability is just too much for me to overlook with the Pro, especially for a new guy. If you first start getting into snowmobiling, and you're liking it, it's fun, and then suddenly you have to pay $4k for a brand new engine on your brand new sled, I'm scared an experience like that could turn you away from snowmobiling for life. On the flip side, if you hop on the Doo and you can't quite sidehill as well as your buddies or pick your way through the trees as well, big deal, you'll keep trying and having fun and get a new sled in 3 years (maybe once Polaris finally figures out how to build a decent motor) that will help you out with that.
P.S. I'm currently on Cat and Yamaha, and I recently recommended the Pro 600 to my Dad (and he loves it by the way), so it's tough to call my opinion too biased.
I'm going to agree with Matte Murder. The Pro is the best in Burandt style riding, and honestly, you probably won't be doing too much of that for the first year or two.
Also, the reliability is just too much for me to overlook with the Pro, especially for a new guy. If you first start getting into snowmobiling, and you're liking it, it's fun, and then suddenly you have to pay $4k for a brand new engine on your brand new sled, I'm scared an experience like that could turn you away from snowmobiling for life. On the flip side, if you hop on the Doo and you can't quite sidehill as well as your buddies or pick your way through the trees as well, big deal, you'll keep trying and having fun and get a new sled in 3 years (maybe once Polaris finally figures out how to build a decent motor) that will help you out with that.
P.S. I'm currently on Cat and Yamaha, and I recently recommended the Pro 600 to my Dad (and he loves it by the way), so it's tough to call my opinion too biased.
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I don't want to steer him away from Doo, but if it was a brand new sled wouldn't that $4000.00 dollar engine be under warranty for at least 3 years on either sled. So no out of pocket blowup cost either way.
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You might be right, I'm not sure, but I thought you had to do a spring check or some other special purchase form in order to get the extended warranty on the Poo? Do all Poo's come with at least a 3 year warranty these days, or are there some out there being sold with just the standard 1 year warranty? I'm not sure, so I would love to hear input. But either way, yes you are technically right that I guess what I really meant would be getting right into his 2nd winter and having it blow then. If it blows in the first winter, he's good regardless.
You might be right, I'm not sure, but I thought you had to do a spring check or some other special purchase form in order to get the extended warranty on the Poo? Do all Poo's come with at least a 3 year warranty these days, or are there some out there being sold with just the standard 1 year warranty? I'm not sure, so I would love to hear input. But either way, yes you are technically right that I guess what I really meant would be getting right into his 2nd winter and having it blow then. If it blows in the first winter, he's good regardless.
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I guess I'm not sure what Polaris's is. I just tried to find warranty info on their site but don't see anything. I'm pretty sure Doo is 3 year standard optional 4 year or rebate on snocheck??? Someone correct me if I am wrong. I guess I just would have assumed Poo and Doo would have had the same standard warranty.
Someone please enlighten us.
Someone please enlighten us.
The only thing the snow check does is provide a "free" warranty for four years. You can go w/o and save some cash or even go with two years. You can always upgrade for a longer warranty, even with a non snow check - you just pay. But Polaris will give you up to four years as part of the snow check and I believe that Doo makes you pay for that fourth year.
Anyway, a blown motor should be covered so no out of pocket charges except for the $50 deductible (which I've never had to pay).
I think you are right I think the polaris is 1 year. And the ski do is 3 year ( for me since in season )
Im leaning towards the ski do right now. Just waiting for them to get them in stock here.
Im leaning towards the ski do right now. Just waiting for them to get them in stock here.
I have found that Doo is much better on warranty issues and really listens to the dealer on claims. My Doos have been flawless with only a couple of minor claims but i have seen good claims service at my dealer for other Doo owners. Poo will ignore a dealer PLEADING for a warranty coverage item. On my Pro I bought an aftermarket 3 year extension on the 1 year factory warranty on the advice of my dealer. She(theres a clue but i don't want to get her in trouble with Poo) said that she is getting excellent coverage from this warranty even when the sled is modified, you are using a non-factory shop or the warranty item in question is a little shaky. The warranty also follows the sled so you don't have to worry about switching it over. I sold my 12 Pro to a buddy. The crank broke 200 miles after he bought it. Poo did eventually cover the claim but it took half the season and a real effort from the dealer.
No hassle with the Polaris aftermarket warranty. I snowcheck my 2012 with the 4 year warranty. I noticed late last year my sled was loosing 200 or so RPM. Took a picture with my cell phone through the exhaust port. Saw the ring groove may have been opening slightly. They ordered new pistons and rings from polaris while I continued to use my sled. I brought them a running sled and got a new top end rebuild under warranty after the season was over and no questions asked.
What about converting your KTM??
http://www.timbersled.com/snowcheck2013.htm
http://www.timbersled.com/snowcheck2013.htm
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My piddly 250xc 2 stroke doesnt have near enough power for that. I almost bought a 2moto kit years ago when I had a couple four strokes but never did.
After riding both brands, I snowchecked an XM for the same reasons listed in this thread.
- Longer warranty that isn't sold to a third party
- Seemingly better warranty experiences
- Better dealer
- More reliable engine
- Less known issues
I'm just waiting for the call from the dealer now!
- Longer warranty that isn't sold to a third party
- Seemingly better warranty experiences
- Better dealer
- More reliable engine
- Less known issues
I'm just waiting for the call from the dealer now!
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