2011 Ski-Doos Released on DooTalk
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need pics.
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JSun
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I wonder what the english translation of "noticably more power" would be?
stock 2.5 track.. thats a DARN good idea. methinks the 800 etec 163 with even the smallest of diets is gonna be on HARD to beat sled now.. the 2.5 is such a huge advantage just from 2.25 or 2.3 or whatever they were before. really impressed with ski-doo.. lets see how the motor fares thought..
whats the word on the 4 stroke 1200 with the 163?? go or no?
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JSun
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No 4-stroke Summit. 155-160hp out of the 800 ETec. The only amazing thing I see about the track is that obviously it is a fact that to compete with the Powerclaw from Cat you have to use a taller lug. If a 2.25 lug can compete with a 2.5 traction wise, it will win weight wise. And less rotating weight is huge.
I took my time to read through the Ski-Doo updates and not jump to an conclusions but I should have because it would have saved me some time. This new line up is disappointment to me. A 600cc, 60hp 4-stroke??? That sounds fun!!! Seriously, POLARIS IS PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE THE MOST EXCITING SLED IN THE MOUNTAINS!!!! Really!?!?! When was the last time that was the case?? Did it really take Ski-Doo FOUR YEARS of development to figure out that they can narrow the ski stance on the XP?? The real question is did they ditch the sway bar yet???
I am just venting, and I am sure the new Ski-Doos will actually be pretty sweet sleds on the snow, which is what matters. If AC comes out with the 1000HO I will be excited. Imagine that, I'll be excited about a new sled that is still in a chassis that will be 7 years old. I guess I just expected more from the yellow camp for 2011.
I took my time to read through the Ski-Doo updates and not jump to an conclusions but I should have because it would have saved me some time. This new line up is disappointment to me. A 600cc, 60hp 4-stroke??? That sounds fun!!! Seriously, POLARIS IS PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE THE MOST EXCITING SLED IN THE MOUNTAINS!!!! Really!?!?! When was the last time that was the case?? Did it really take Ski-Doo FOUR YEARS of development to figure out that they can narrow the ski stance on the XP?? The real question is did they ditch the sway bar yet???
I am just venting, and I am sure the new Ski-Doos will actually be pretty sweet sleds on the snow, which is what matters. If AC comes out with the 1000HO I will be excited. Imagine that, I'll be excited about a new sled that is still in a chassis that will be 7 years old. I guess I just expected more from the yellow camp for 2011.
Probably didn't want to release a 4 stroke Mtn sled that they didn't have under the weight of the Nytro, when weight has been their claim to fame. Now to top it off, Polaris steals their thunder in the 800 Mtn 2 smokes
Really though, cat seems to have been quite far ahead of the game with their m series. All the other manufacturers have been through several chassis changes trying to make something that works as well.
I wish people would lay off on the seven year old thing. So it is seven years old, so what? The rest of the manufacturers have had "new" and "exciting" changes only to change it again and again. While the cat people have had a change to refine and get the reliability that the others seem to be lacking. Now they still need to refine a some more things but really it seems to me that if they throw an updated round of plastics on it and most people would be happy with the "change".
As for not being "rider forward", well I hope they never do go there. If I had liked that I would have stayed with the doo I was riding. My shoulders are so much happier on the m, I can just turn with my feet.
BUT, the first couple years of the M were not stellar as far as ride quality....I rode the first couple editions quite a bit and remember that.
7 year old chassis
Now I'm not bashin the M, I loved ridin the old M7, flickable...
but,
If you're not moving forward, you're standing still, and if you're standing still, you'll never be in the lead......
just sayin.....
They could easily improve on the M....
good sled nontheless..
Now I'm not bashin the M, I loved ridin the old M7, flickable...
but,
If you're not moving forward, you're standing still, and if you're standing still, you'll never be in the lead......
just sayin.....
They could easily improve on the M....
good sled nontheless..
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JSun
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I am not bashing on the M series chassis either, just a sarcastic remark about how I will be MORE excited about that sled than any of the new Ski-Doos. As far as the M chassis, I couldn't agree more. It is the easiest sled to ride I have ever ridden in the mountains. However, if the '10 is a drastic improvement in ride quality compared to previous models, wow!! They must have been pathetic. I still think there's a way to have rider-forward and an easy handling sled in the mountains, and I am hoping the new chassis will be rider forward. It's basic engineering, put the rider at the pivot point of the sled (the center) and they would, in an ideal situation, be isolated from the impacts. On the M-series you sit more towards the rear of the machine so you "feel" more of the bumps on the trail. Just a thought. I think next year (2012) Cat will have a sled that will combine the easy handling of the M-chassis, be more rider-forward, drop a few pounds and completely dominate the mountain market in all aspects of riding. Ski-Doo has opened the door for them to take over the mountains and I hope they take advantage of the opportunity.
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