its good to finally see skidoo might have some competiton on the hills this winter.its been lonely at the top
Stop ridding with the non-turbo Yamaha's and you'll experience more competition!
2011 RMK Pro 155 Weight as delivered
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Stop ridding with the non-turbo Yamaha's and you'll experience more competition!
A D8 1 mile from a gas station and your stuck up to your *** weighs exactly 1000 pounds.
Your welcome.
Bag
Finally a weight that we can all agree on!!!
Dry weights are the dumbest thing in the world. You can't ride them that way.If you know them all you can use it for a comparison but you still can't ride em that way. If one has a bigger tank it still doesn't matter. The other one might have to pack more fuel and even out. If it gets better mileage then you won't have to and it is going to be lighter. I listened to the argument on the king cat versus the rev. The rev was heavier but wet it was lighter. Lighter is lighter. Are you going to use that as an excuse if you get beat on the hill? I have a bigger tank otherwise I would have won. Get over this dry weight thing.
OK....step back from the trees and look at the forrest...
The PRO RMK will be the lightest stock 2011 800 mountain sled on the hill... ready to ride full of fuel/oil/coolant.
The PRO RMK will be the lightest stock 2011 800 mountain sled on the hill... ready to ride full of fuel/oil/coolant.
I think everyone agrees with this. But it is really the only way to know who has the lightest sled. It really isn't fair to compare wet weights because if one sled has an 8 gallon tank and another has a 12 gallon tank you are talking roughly 28 lbs, right there. I also believe the best way to weigh them would be full of all fluids except fuel. I would say it is <10% difference in fluid capacities on most sleds of the same CC.
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snowmobiler
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but does sled weight really matter when some riders weigh 180#s and some a buck 30?
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but does sled weight really matter when some riders weigh 180#s and some a buck 30?
Exactly, which comes back to my point.
That is also why it is cheaper to go on a diet and lose 20 lbs than it is to pay to remove 20 lbs from your sled ($$$).
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theshadowrider
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Thank you! Lets talk ready to ride weights because that what matters! The Pro-RMK ready to ride, will be the lightest, and I bet will be able to travel the farthest also! Now if I just owned one!
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snowmobiler
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watch out for pinecones!
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bradburck
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Rider weight
What a HUGE Difference this is.. I weigh 225 Dry and the buddy I ride with weighs in at a smooth 160 dry. THAT IS A HUGE difference. And you can tell when we ride the trees.. I've got a 190 horse M1000... he's got a 160 horse Dragon 800.. but that 65 lbs difference between the two of us keeps him going almost everywhere I go. Unfortunately there isn't much I can do about my weight unless somehow muscle mass decides to melt off my body. He's always going to be able to hang, he's 8 inches shorter 2/3 my weight!
Dry weights are the only fair way to compare sleds, liquid for liquid in each (meaning 1 gal of gas, similar amounts of oil, etc.). Is it perfect?? NO.. but it's as good as we're going to get right? I also agree hole-heartily with Eric, using the same scale and weighing methods is also another important component to Here is CO things weigh less cause the force of gravity is less as we're father from the source of the gravity?? That's the physics teacher in me speaking, but it's true!
I don't see any other fair way of weighing sleds unless you wanna take them out on the same day with a scale in the woods, ride them and then weigh them. All things being equal, the Pro looks like a sweet ride, can't wait to ride one this winter. Hope the motor works out!
Burck
What a HUGE Difference this is.. I weigh 225 Dry and the buddy I ride with weighs in at a smooth 160 dry. THAT IS A HUGE difference. And you can tell when we ride the trees.. I've got a 190 horse M1000... he's got a 160 horse Dragon 800.. but that 65 lbs difference between the two of us keeps him going almost everywhere I go. Unfortunately there isn't much I can do about my weight unless somehow muscle mass decides to melt off my body. He's always going to be able to hang, he's 8 inches shorter 2/3 my weight!
Dry weights are the only fair way to compare sleds, liquid for liquid in each (meaning 1 gal of gas, similar amounts of oil, etc.). Is it perfect?? NO.. but it's as good as we're going to get right? I also agree hole-heartily with Eric, using the same scale and weighing methods is also another important component to Here is CO things weigh less cause the force of gravity is less as we're father from the source of the gravity?? That's the physics teacher in me speaking, but it's true!
I don't see any other fair way of weighing sleds unless you wanna take them out on the same day with a scale in the woods, ride them and then weigh them. All things being equal, the Pro looks like a sweet ride, can't wait to ride one this winter. Hope the motor works out!
Burck
Agreed, gravity at elevation = standard gravity(radius of earth/radius of earth plus elevation in meters)^2...but you're talking about a very small percentage affecting the weight. Other factors include air density, the location of the moon and the sun, and the location in accordance to the equater as it has an inherant "bulge effect". NERDS! I want to know the dry weight but as long as the scale is accurate who cares where it was weighed.
Well, I'm not a physics teacher, but... 225/190 = 1.18 pounds per hp.
160/160 = 1.00 pounds per hp.
Maybe your buddy can keep up with you cause he's just a better rider?
Now don't get bent out of shape.
You also need to look at differances in track length/height/durometer. Other factors are gearing, suspension setups etc. What's the weight diff between the sleds? And what mods, doesn't sound like your's is stock with those numbers.
I agree with the theory that dry weight to dry weight is the only way to fairly compare to see which sled is LIGHTEST.
But lets not get confused and equate that to BEST. (as in he can keep up with me....)
A lite sled is just that, a lite sled. Maybe not the most capable that day.....
Bag
160/160 = 1.00 pounds per hp.
Maybe your buddy can keep up with you cause he's just a better rider?
Now don't get bent out of shape.
You also need to look at differances in track length/height/durometer. Other factors are gearing, suspension setups etc. What's the weight diff between the sleds? And what mods, doesn't sound like your's is stock with those numbers.
I agree with the theory that dry weight to dry weight is the only way to fairly compare to see which sled is LIGHTEST.
But lets not get confused and equate that to BEST. (as in he can keep up with me....)
A lite sled is just that, a lite sled. Maybe not the most capable that day.....
Bag
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bradburck
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Well, I'm not a physics teacher, but... 225/190 = 1.18 pounds per hp.
160/160 = 1.00 pounds per hp.
Maybe your buddy can keep up with you cause he's just a better rider?
Now don't get bent out of shape.
You also need to look at differances in track length/height/durometer. Other factors are gearing, suspension setups etc. What's the weight diff between the sleds? And what mods, doesn't sound like your's is stock with those numbers.
I agree with the theory that dry weight to dry weight is the only way to fairly compare to see which sled is LIGHTEST.
But lets not get confused and equate that to BEST. (as in he can keep up with me....)
A lite sled is just that, a lite sled. Maybe not the most capable that day.....
Bag
Well I don't know how math works in Washington, but using your own math, isn't it better have 1 horse powering one pound than to have 1 horse powering 1.18 pounds?? So maybe I am the better rider??!! Just jerking your chain, but that is EXACTLY what I'm talking about! Now of course we have to assume everything else is equal, sled weight, track length, track traction, coefficient of friction between the chassis and the snow, the coefficient of power loss through the drive system, etc. (see physics kicks in again)
At the end of the day I'm definitely not the best rider out there, (no Chris Burandt here, but look forward to riding with him this winter, hope he fixes all my problems!!) I just love to ride and again I hope all the 'bugs' don't hurt the release of a sled with so much potential! This debate could go on forever, but its a competition between you and your friends right? Be it a mostly friendly one, it's still a competition!!!
Now we just need it to stop being 85 degrees outside here in CO so we can test all these theories out!
