141 Is it really Too short?

[Empire087]

Is a 141 really gonna be too short? I dont want to be miserable, but id really like to have something thats super maneuverable. Im kinda stuck with it for this year unless i happened to sell it, which isnt that likely. Just trying to get a grasp of where im at, as im starting to get annoyed on how people keep telling me 141's are junk and i need a 3000000" track. Im not expecting to be the first to the top of the hill, or make the tallest high mark. Its not a competition for me and i dont have to have the biggest baddest toy on the mountain.

think snow,
Dakota

 

[stingray719]

Year before last I had a 144 I rode for a couple seasons. Since then I have had a 162. My suggestion is to get some very wide skiis, this worked for me as I usually got stuck when the front dropped. Made a world of difference in powder with the short track.

We still have two short tracks for friends and relatives we just make sure to tell them to follow in our tracks and I am surprised where they can get with wide skiis and following. But if you plan on doing extreme riding by all means go long track.

And of course you can buy a used long track and build some rail extensions and get by cheap that way.

 

[WaBackcountry]

IMO it depends how much power you have. With a turbo or a 925 BB a 141-144 would be ideal.

I am sure BCIL will let you know too.

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[Leardriver]

No, it's not too short.

I miss the old 133 tracks. You can go a lot of places, and have better maneuverability, with the shorter track.

Just make good decisions and know your limitations.

 

[JHG]

You'll be fine, just learn to ride it. Some of the best riders I've seen have been on short tracks. skill>equipment. But.... if you want a 153" I have a set of rails and a 153" PC that I'll make you a screaming deal on.

 

[sgtX]

chris burandt said in schooled 2, stock snomobiles will make it you just have to be a rider, i started out with a 583 with a 136 inch track few yrs ago now I have a 153 inch track on an 2002 800, love it, sure up grade will make it, but its nice being the older sled and keeping up with everybody

 

[SRXSRULE]

141 what? Kind of matters what sled its on.

A big part of it is what the rest of the people you ride with are riding. If your with a bunch of 136-144's you will be fine, If your with a bunch of 155-163's ......well lets just say you better outshine them in the skill department. Eric

 

[Empire087]

Ill be on a 2005 m7efi 141 with powerclaw

 

[cbc24]

i was ripping a 08 renegade 137 last year it did fine

 

[silvester]

I hear backcountryislife is riding a 136 tuboed m8 this season, it is a special edition designed to make everyone feel self conscience about their 153's . Id say you are fine unless you weigh over 250 and it is a deep day

 

[Dogmeat]

Is a 141 really gonna be too short? I dont want to be miserable, but id really like to have something thats super maneuverable. Im kinda stuck with it for this year unless i happened to sell it, which isnt that likely. Just trying to get a grasp of where im at, as im starting to get annoyed on how people keep telling me 141's are junk and i need a 3000000" track. Im not expecting to be the first to the top of the hill, or make the tallest high mark. Its not a competition for me and i dont have to have the biggest baddest toy on the mountain.

think snow,
Dakota

I'll put it this way .... I got my *** handed to me in some really nice deep snow in west yellowstone last spring by a professional guide riding a 146" Summit 800 .... and I was on my Turbo M8 162" .... Given the guy is a professional guide that knew the area and rides half the year, but the moral of the story is, if you know what you're doing you don't have to have a massive track to be effective at riding powder .... just need to generally speaking be (or become) a better rider and move more quickly with a shorter track in deep snow than a longer one.

But, with that said, I would say you'd also want least 2" lugs on that 141 .... the 1.25" lugs might not cut it in the deep stuff, idk.

 

[Kid Rock]

my 11 year old was riding a m7 141 last season....LOL

seriously though, if you are new to CO and mtn riding, ride it like you stole it. by the end of the season you will know very quickly where the limits are. good learning sled but probably a not a great long term solution.

I rode an 02' 600 136" mtn cat my first year out here. there is alot of truth that good riders can ride well on smaller sleds but equipment does matter.

BCIL has his track off the ground most of the time (jumping)....unless you're wired the same way, dont use that as a comparison....

 

[Empire087]

my 11 year old was riding a m7 141 last season....LOL

seriously though, if you are new to CO and mtn riding, ride it like you stole it. by the end of the season you will know very quickly where the limits are. good learning sled but probably a not a great long term solution.

I rode an 02' 600 136" mtn cat my first year out here. there is alot of truth that good riders can ride well on smaller sleds but equipment does matter.

BCIL has his track off the ground most of the time (jumping)....unless you're wired the same way, dont use that as a comparison....

Well, I've always liked jumping road gaps, and natural stuff. So there's a possibility. Right now I'm looking hard for a turbo setup, as I figure once you boost one thing the rest is never the same without.

 

[tmk50]

Pretty much everyone on this forum learned how to ride in the mountains on a 136 or 144 underpowered heavy sled, by today's standards (unless they are new to the sport).

Ride the sled - have fun. You will learn A TON this winter. Try some other sleds out this winter when you ride with others and figure out what works best for you, and upgrade from there if you need to.

tk

 

[FCR112]

141" w/turbo is not too short for the deep as long as you learn to steer quickly with your feet. (and the guys behind are cool riding in a 3' deep trench) Most of what I have observed and one short pull for myself showed me the ski's want to be in the air most of the time...

 

[Goinboardin]

Only reason I went 174 is because of my lack of skill! Well, I suppose it was to be able to ride doubles up the steep and deep for snowboarding. But, I really like riding my buddies 144 sleds if we're just out sledding. The 141 will be a blast for you and is not too short. I rode a Polaris Indy 500 stretched to 136" my first season sledding in CO and had a great time, you'll have some power too.

 

[Coldfinger]

Like SRX said, depends who you're riding with. You don't want to be the ball and chain that holds the group back much. Someone has to assume the limiting role but I wouldn't want to be too limiting.

 

[AndrettiDog]

It's a toss up. It's those really fluffy deep days that are hard to keep on top of the snow that expose a smaller track. It used to be that people didn't want the big tracks because the sleds were so big. Now sleds are more nimble and getting lighter. My Pro 155" feels so much more maneuverable than my '99 RMK 136". Personally I don't feel much restriction from my 155" and I don't think a 144" would make me more maneuverable. Less float but more track speed.

 

[backcountryislife]

BCIL has his track off the ground most of the time (jumping)....unless you're wired the same way, dont use that as a comparison....

Actually... if all I cared about was jumping I'd have a 153 or 156 again. I can keep a longer track straight farther, the shorter track seems to get sideways on me too easily for ME to go much past 100some feet. The 153 almost never went sideways.

I ride the 141 for the fun & for the control. I can pop it up anywhere I want, and make as tight a turn as I want... it's just something most folks won't get until they ride a current shorter track.

That said, Dakota is on a 700 where the lowest powered 141 I've ridden was a 1000 with mods, and he's pretty stock, where both of mine had a bunch of weight taken off.

I ride with guys with 153 & 160+ tracks all the time, and have never had a place they could go that I couldn't... you just have to get there faster & think ahead.

OBVIOUSLY that takes practice. Your first month (and due to baseless crap snow we always have early season) you will hate it, but you'll get used to it pretty quick.

If you're riding with me, I'll be happy to share any tips & suspension setup advice I can muster! If you're struggling, learning to keep the skis down in the deep is a huge thing. The one pull I saw FCR do on mine reminded me just how different it really is, but you can adjust the skid to bring them down, I just like riding on the last 3" of the track.


I just listed my 11 Dakota... just get it over with & buy THE 141, you know you want it!!!

 

[Engine Pro 5x]

We have a 121, 136, 141, and a 153. I like find myself riding the 141 or the 153 the most and the 153 is my favorite just because of the 800cc engine. Just remember they'll all get stuck so just pick your sled and go have fun !!! >>>>.