Rumor has it the 858 Catalyst engine package (engine, exhaust, intake, mounts, etc) is 3 lbs lighter than the 600 catalyst. Snowest even mentions it in one of their pod casts. The 600 does use a 800 crank, and their is savings in the integrated engine mounts built into the bottom end case of the 858 versus the plate system on the 600. This is how the 858 sits even lower in the chassis compared to the 600.
Any Gen 5 riders demo a Catalyst?
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A 600 Alpha doesnt ride any heavier than a 800 Alpha. It has the same stroke, a heavier crank and within 4 pounds of the total weight. Feels exactly the same.
A 600 AXYS feels miles lighter than a 650 which feels the same as a 9R.
I have an 800 Catalyst. And it feels lighter than a 600 Catalyst and lighter than any other sled cause it is.
The 858 will not be noticeably different than the 6. It has a longer stroke affecting gyros but the crank is basically same weight as the new 6/800. The motor is mounted substantially lower and further back.
i have a 600 catalyst and rode a 850 ski doo this weekend and i thought the ski doo felt heavy in the bars like it was fighting me the whole time. The doo was a rental so how it was set up i dont know, but my catalyst is set how the dealer had it as well. the catalyst felt easy to do anything, sidehilling over old hard tracks was a breeze. My buddy with a 800 stage 2 axys with fox floats wants to buy my 600 so its not just me. the doo felt more powerfull which it should but that was the only thing better about it in my opinion. every one that rode the 9r in our group said they liked it and that it and my catalyst felt very similar, other than power of course. I do think the cat track and drive train make up for some of the power difference the powerclaw track just hooks up.
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I don’t know what you’re talking about… the 858 is going to be lighter than the 600!
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Guys dropping in ctecs.
I own a 2023 turbo r (elevate spindles, Mohawk skis, Fox QRS) rides substantially better than stock. I also have a 2023 boost and demoed a catalyst last week. If you ride trees doos chassis is 3rd on my list, heavy and unpredictable compared to the other 2 chassis. As mentioned the catalyst is the easiest to ride and hold a sidehill. I’ve ordered an 858, it’s going to be the best NA on the snow. Boost is being kept for deep days, Gen 5’s forsale.
Just make sure you get on the polaris site and tell Chadly how much you like your cat junk. He told me he really wanted to know.
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I don’t know what you’re talking about… the 858 is going to be lighter than the 600!
People have forgotten theres more to a mod sled build than a wrap and a set of CFR bars.
As chance would have it I lucked into a catalyst 600 demo ride tomorrow, I’ll post a review. I’m currently on a ‘23 na expert 165 and love it for the technical tree riding we do 90% of the time.
I saw Kusters Snowest interview where he talked about the Summit X being the most enjoyable all-round mountain sled which has made me consider snowchecking the X as well. Deciding between the ‘25 858, expert na and X na. I’m 6’1”, 205 and the expert has been a sweet machine for me. I’m 56 and after 3 solid days of riding I’m pretty sore and tired, maybe the X would be just as enjoyable and leave a bit more in the tank.
I saw Kusters Snowest interview where he talked about the Summit X being the most enjoyable all-round mountain sled which has made me consider snowchecking the X as well. Deciding between the ‘25 858, expert na and X na. I’m 6’1”, 205 and the expert has been a sweet machine for me. I’m 56 and after 3 solid days of riding I’m pretty sore and tired, maybe the X would be just as enjoyable and leave a bit more in the tank.
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Went from an Expert to an X this season and agree with Carls statement/your post. Looking forward to your review on the new Cat Chassis!
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Think he was speaking to lightest feeling vs Expert model, could be wrong.
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Ambassadors are trying to sell sleds for skidoo that’s their purpose, no one can feel a few lbs difference, some guys are good enough a rider they made them old apex Yamahas look light weight. All 3 cat doo and poo have there flaws and strong points don’t be so brand blind
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Have owned all three brands lol
858 is the real deal.
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I heard the 600 catalyst beats the g5 turbo r in every category, except price (way cheaper). Get u sum a dat!
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Why’s does everyone get so angry? It would be best for all of us if the new cat is the best sled ever it will push the other two to catch up. More competition is the best thing. Never got to ride a catalyst but just standing on one in the showroom seems small almost like a mid sized sled.
Who is angry Karen?
Super small sled very noticeable when riding, doo needs to get on the weight loss train and really just drop to a 15 wide chassis with the Gen 6.
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