No, they don't. It takes years for a tree to become of useable size for anything other than a set of toothpicks. they may start growing once planted, but from seedling to becoming 6" in diameter will take years.
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No, they don't. It takes years for a tree to become of useable size for anything other than a set of toothpicks. they may start growing once planted, but from seedling to becoming 6" in diameter will take years.
Well....not exacly. They DO need proper conditions.
automatically, as in no human intervention. Humans do not need to make anything, or build anything for the resource to be created. That is what I meant with "automatically". Sorry for the confusion.
something similar to that, though you would need to decrease the size of the pipe towards the end.
water storage is one benefit, the other is being able to get more power out of the water as compared to a run of the river type of hydro station.
I think it means that the energy is there naturally. The energy in wood (chemical). The energy in the wind (kinetic). The energy the sun (kinetic). These things occur naturally. A dam uses man made methods to get the energy (or rather increase the potential energy and therefore the kinetic energy) from the water.
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You are getting it. Gold Star!Rivers flow without human intervention also (they are considered kinetic engergy)...unless of course they are dammed up. Then they become potential engergy. LOL.
What about hydroelectric, such as Niagra falls? They were there long before humans.
I guess that would be renewable then...
The definition of renewable seems to be able to be changed based on ones point of view. I mean, oil could be deemed renewable. It had to come from nature didn't it?
8600 Cubic Feet per second @ 180 PSI to be exact
http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=15414934
Yep, I did that............ I have a cool job .................sometimes
Those are twin 66 inch Hollow Jet valves, each is flowing 2000 CFS @ 180 PSI
Powerplant is putting out 4600 CFS through 3 Hydroelectric Turbines
More clean power than any wind farm will EVER put out
Nice Dave you track it up and dump the evidence.......Now that there,s funny and i dont care who you are....
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Yes, the outlet works bypass the Turbines, we do this when we need to lower the reservoir to make room to store spring run off and need to release more than plant capacity of 4600 CFS. I dont think you read my post
Yes, 3 Units@ 50 MW each is 150 MW, used mostly for voltage regulation on the grid. 3 Turbines at 50 MW each equates to 4600 CFS of water, that's exactly what I said before.
we seldom run more than 2 units except during spring runoff because we also have other responsibilities to meet,
Flood control in the spring, without the Dam spring flows would exceed 30'000 CFS just about every spring and destroy property
We provide controlled flooding when requested by Fish and Game biologists to improve spawning habit for 5 species of endangered fish
We control the temperature of the river to improve the habitat for 5 species of endangered fish
We control the flows of the river to improve sport fishing habitat and for recreation users such as rafting
And of course we provide cheap power to our neighbors, that is what pays for the Dam and reservoir operations, Generation takes a back seat to all the other things we do.
Without the Dam the river would flow less than 200 or 300 CFS for most of the summer and into fall, you could walk across the river before the Dam was built
I didn't start this post to talk about the politics of water, I just wanted to share what I do for a living and have a little fun, if you want to bad mouth what I do for a living take your crap somewhere else. Start your own thread and blow your horn at yourself
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The trees were clear cut and removed before the Dam was finished
You dont think the water is a valuable resource
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8600 Cubic Feet per second @ 180 PSI to be exact
http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=15414934
Yep, I did that............ I have a cool job .................sometimes
Those are twin 66 inch Hollow Jet valves, each is flowing 2000 CFS @ 180 PSI
Powerplant is putting out 4600 CFS through 3 Hydroelectric Turbines
More clean power than any wind farm will EVER put out
Is it legal after 9/11 to give people tours of the inside of the dam?
And once you pay the "carbon penalty" for construction ... the dam produces zero emission power for what, a century or two? Hmmmm.......
They stopped for awhile until we could add some new security but now they have guided tours Friday to Monday in the winter, and after the 25th 7 days a week all summer, 9 to 430 I think
Cool, I might have to come up for one of those ... I didn't know if you could actually go into the dam or not.
Also, I have another odd question ...
When they do dam inspections, do you use scuba divers to inspect the face of the dam on the reservior side?
If so, have you heard any "fish tales"?
Reason I ask is that a long time ago I talked to a BuRec guy who worked out at the Pathfinder dam near Casper, Wy and he was telling me they did that and some of the divers claimed they saw absolutley massive trout down there ... I guess they would be attracted to the light? So like the guy would be shining his light, inspecting I guess ... then like, a 4' trout would be "peering" over his shoulder .... lol .... If thats true that'd be freaky as all hell ... do they actually do that?
We use robots more than divers, cheaper, safer and can go deeper than the avg diver. Flaming Gorge water is 450 ft deep at the Dam
their are big fish down there but never saw anything that big, they have some big fish mounts at the Lodge
their are big fish down there but never saw anything that big, they have some big fish mounts at the Lodge
I would blame the guy below hiding behind the couch...lolWho left the gate open and let the tree hugers in here
More clean power than any wind farm will EVER put out
Who is bad mouthing what you do? I thought it was interesting so I asked some questions...
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I did some machine work on a set of gates in the hydro @ Navajo lake. Nice place to work in the summer! Creepy being in the tube with a plug 12 ' away and 300'+ of lake on the other side. They built dams on either side and pumped the seepage around to keep me in the dry.