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Why is Japan closed to North American Cars

blah blah blah, you guys have a nice day dumping your hard earned cash into companies that overpay employees and and make **** products....HAVE FUN.....:beer;

Times change, get over the whole dont supports other countries ****....

i buy what works. end of story.
 
When are people going to stop believing the myth that only foreign cars work? My relatives who constantly brag about their Toyotas were talking about cars at Christmas. My Aunt had almost $6,000 of repairs done to her nearly new vehicle in the last year, but they were still bragging it up because it was covered by warranty. At the same time, I was disgruntled with my Ford because I had to replace my water pump at 147,000 miles. I was disappointed because with the last 3 Ford's I've owned, I've had NO repairs except belts and brakes (wear items) until after 160,000 miles. When you bring up something like that in an argument with the Japanese proponents, they invariably come up with something like, " Well, the domestics' 'fit and finish' is bad," or "American styling just can't compete." In reality, there are domestic and foreign cars that both work, and don't work. I'll just continue to drive my reliable domestic cars and continue to prove that the Japan lovers are wrong when they say only foreign cars work.
 
Japan holds more than 680 billion is US debt, they buy it so the US can keep buying all their crap same with China.
They make up the rules right now so sit down and shut up!

The US is a lazy overweight socalist country hooked on debt with morons running it, end of story.
 
blah blah blah, you guys have a nice day dumping your hard earned cash into companies that overpay employees and and make **** products....HAVE FUN.....:beer;

Times change, get over the whole dont supports other countries ****....

i buy what works. end of story.

I'm not gonna get over supporting my country. You go ahead and send your hard earned cash to other countries and support their economies. We've gotten to where we are by supporting ourselves. Other countries have gotten to where they are by us supporting them and only them. You say you buy what works. My American made crap works very well, made by overpaid auto workers. And I do have fun with them, thank you. End of story.

So what rules are the Japanese making? They run our country? If people keep buying their products, mainly cars and pickups. They will own this land of ours that we have fought hard to build. You go ahead a sit down and shut up and let this country go socialism. That's exactly what they want us to do. I'm not going too. If we just sit here on our lazy overweight selves every country will own and run this place. End of story.

The USA don't build junky, overpriced cars and trucks. IMO. There just as good or I think better than Jap crap. It is more of a status symbol to own foreign cars and pickups. Most of the problems of this country are self inflicted. We need to fix it now. By that I mean fix our unions and auto makers to the lean mean machine they use to be. We let it get to this point cause we just bulling everyone around and it was not fair. Too bad for them.
 
You got this right. This is the main reason Japan is closed to North American Cars. The import Tax on these cars are as much as the car cost. So only very few can afford to buy one. Japanese people would buy US cars if the tax wasn't so high. The USA needs to impose a Import Tax on Jap cars like the Japs does the US cars. Yea sure their assembled here in the US but their still imported. And most of the profit goes to the country of origin.

I just love when people say they won't buy a certain make because of the unions. They rather send their money to a country that loves to see the USA fail. Talk about UN-American. I by no means support unions. They have their problems but so do most industries. The auto makers and the UAW need overhauled. But it wont stop me from buying American and keeping my money here not to some other country that hates the USA.

As far as people thinking GM, Ford Or Chrysler being more expensive than Toyota, Honda or Nissan need to go down to your local dealers and check prices. A fully loaded Impala or Fusion are less expensive than a fully loaded Camry or Accord. And are just as nice and reliable. Japanese cars used to be cheaper but not no more. Japanese have quality cars. but do little for the US economy. Yes they provide jobs up and down the car market but a small percentage of their profits stay here.

Do I own Japanese products? Yes I guess I do. The motor in my sleds and my race car are made in Japan. My TVs and computer are made in Japan. So I'm a hypocrite, its hard not to be when it comes to some products.

I have tried to stay out of threads like this cause people don't like what I say. I have spent two and a half years in Japan and have seen how hard it is to get a foreign car into that country. And how Japanese people don't think North Americans can build anything. I would like to see the sale of foreign cars in this country stop but it will never happen. It needs to be fair. There's a stiff tax on cars going onto Japan there needs to be a equally stiff tax on Japanese cars coming to America.

Most people that buy foreign cars have no idea what damage they are doing to the US economy. These same people you can never please, have no patients or understand people are human and will make mistakes. A Lot of problems cars(foreign or domestic) have today are not from human error. Most parts are computer or robot made. The Japanese build great stuff but all they do is work six days a week 10 hours a day and are a slave to their work. Not my idea of a great life.

Go ahead and say American cars arent even made in the USA. At least the profits come back here when it is all said and done. I much rather support a product made in Canada or Mexico than one made overseas in a country that hates and wants to see us fail.

Its time to rethink American.

Flame on flame on this AMERICAN is use to it:D


You are spot on with this train of thought. :beer;



Did you know we taught the Japanese to build TV's . Go try to buy one, at best buy that is made in the USA. This goes so much deeper than many americans know , if you dig into the facts they might scare the hell out of you.

The goverment in Japan is the reason GM and Ford cant sell cars there . We treat them like a friend , they treat us like the enemy . Fat Boy and Little Man is my guess , Pearl Harbor is still effecting the way things are today.

Just think about this , how could you destroy a country if there military was to strong to destroy? :mad:
 
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Wide angle perspective

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All comes down to keeping out the competition(US cars) by taxing them out the roof and keeping their own products' prices lower to make them more enticing to their own people so they could buy them and keep themselves in business in their home country.

Looking through soda straw perspective

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blah blah blah, you guys have a nice day dumping your hard earned cash into companies that overpay employees and and make **** products....HAVE FUN.....:beer;

Times change, get over the whole dont supports other countries ****....

i buy what works. end of story.
 
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I'm not gonna get over supporting my country. You go ahead and send your hard earned cash to other countries and support their economies. We've gotten to where we are by supporting ourselves. Other countries have gotten to where they are by us supporting them and only them. You say you buy what works. My American made crap works very well, made by overpaid auto workers. And I do have fun with them, thank you. End of story.

So what rules are the Japanese making? They run our country? If people keep buying their products, mainly cars and pickups. They will own this land of ours that we have fought hard to build. You go ahead a sit down and shut up and let this country go socialism. That's exactly what they want us to do. I'm not going too. If we just sit here on our lazy overweight selves every country will own and run this place. End of story.

The USA don't build junky, overpriced cars and trucks. IMO. There just as good or I think better than Jap crap. It is more of a status symbol to own foreign cars and pickups. Most of the problems of this country are self inflicted. We need to fix it now. By that I mean fix our unions and auto makers to the lean mean machine they use to be. We let it get to this point cause we just bulling everyone around and it was not fair. Too bad for them.

Oh really? the US doesnt make ****ty cars? wow, what a suprise, my last two GMS fell the **** apart at 160K, i have had yotas through out my life, and they ALL went to 200K, my 4runner is at 283 on the original 22RE. your ford runs well? guess what? the sun shines on a dogs *** every once in a while....good for you, the statistics dont support that scooter.

jap crap....lol.....just as reliable? ok mabye in 20 years when these implalas are still on the road ill believe it, but as for right now i gott go off reputation, and so does everyone else who buying a car. Guess what??!!! GM DOESNT HAVE ONE. toyota does. KTHANXBYE

i will gladly support their economies, you all do it everyday so dont give me hit for it either....
 
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back on topic the gooks have never bought US built ..ever ..you want a clean 2005 BMW 540 with zip for klicks ..shop Japan ....they buy the good sh1t and thats that ..

Its like most people ..now days ..do you think I aspire to buy a Geo ..a Monte Carlo..a Caprice ..nope show me a smokin BMW ......that is what people look for now days not a throw away pos GM car ...however if it is a pickup the story changes..I'll will probably buy another GMC pickup before anything else ..2 cents
 
Somewhat off the mark but here's my take on American cars.....I can't afford NOT to own a Toyota.
Before my 07 Toyota, I had a Stratus & Bonneville, both needed new transmissions by 60,000. Before those two, I owned an 88 Toyota van. Sold it at 220,000 miles, it now has 287,000 with the same tranny and motor. So when Toyota builds a 3/4 p/u, I'll buy one of those instead of a Sierra.

I gave Detroit a chance and it cost me. Now that the unions have assumed close to majority ownership in Chrysler.....they can choke on their cars as far as I'm concerned.

Yes, it is short sighted to not buy American but my immediate response is screw them, and if the industry goes away, so be it. The left has succeeded in pulling this country out of its roots that made it great, while catering to equalism for ALL, (globally as well), and until we reach critical mass we'll continue to circle the drain - though with all the recent influx of foreigners that have not left their cultures behind, we may never go back to the hay days of the USA.
 
You got this right. This is the main reason Japan is closed to North American Cars. The import Tax on these cars are as much as the car cost. So only very few can afford to buy one. Japanese people would buy US cars if the tax wasn't so high. The USA needs to impose a Import Tax on Jap cars like the Japs does the US cars. Yea sure their assembled here in the US but their still imported. And most of the profit goes to the country of origin.

I just love when people say they won't buy a certain make because of the unions. They rather send their money to a country that loves to see the USA fail. Talk about UN-American. I by no means support unions. They have their problems but so do most industries. The auto makers and the UAW need overhauled. But it wont stop me from buying American and keeping my money here not to some other country that hates the USA.

As far as people thinking GM, Ford Or Chrysler being more expensive than Toyota, Honda or Nissan need to go down to your local dealers and check prices. A fully loaded Impala or Fusion are less expensive than a fully loaded Camry or Accord. And are just as nice and reliable. Japanese cars used to be cheaper but not no more. Japanese have quality cars. but do little for the US economy. Yes they provide jobs up and down the car market but a small percentage of their profits stay here.

Do I own Japanese products? Yes I guess I do. The motor in my sleds and my race car are made in Japan. My TVs and computer are made in Japan. So I'm a hypocrite, its hard not to be when it comes to some products.

I have tried to stay out of threads like this cause people don't like what I say. I have spent two and a half years in Japan and have seen how hard it is to get a foreign car into that country. And how Japanese people don't think North Americans can build anything. I would like to see the sale of foreign cars in this country stop but it will never happen. It needs to be fair. There's a stiff tax on cars going onto Japan there needs to be a equally stiff tax on Japanese cars coming to America.

Most people that buy foreign cars have no idea what damage they are doing to the US economy. These same people you can never please, have no patients or understand people are human and will make mistakes. A Lot of problems cars(foreign or domestic) have today are not from human error. Most parts are computer or robot made. The Japanese build great stuff but all they do is work six days a week 10 hours a day and are a slave to their work. Not my idea of a great life.

Go ahead and say American cars arent even made in the USA. At least the profits come back here when it is all said and done. I much rather support a product made in Canada or Mexico than one made overseas in a country that hates and wants to see us fail.

Its time to rethink American.

Flame on flame on this AMERICAN is use to it:D

you hit on the reason. Japan import duty is 100%. I got an earful one day from our Caterpillar salesman. The U.S. has import taxes but many import vehicles are shipped incomplete with final assembly here. Same for the Hondas and others "made" in the US. with imported parts. Jap and Korean equipment comes in minus booms, drums, cabs or canopies for final assembly. We need to make our trade regs mirror the country we're dealing with. And, boycott countries that steal or otherwise copy technology developed here.
 
Still love American made, but some things to ponder.....

Difference between the two is that US charges per model line, cars for example its $2 million for the company. In Japan they charge the buyer this tax, so its a matter of who is paying the taxes even though they are similar. Same reason that when you import a car not for sale here the taxes are so high, same thing when you do it here.

Other things that Japan has is size tax, which I'm sure the gentleman who lived in Japan could tell us about, as well as the cost of a large size vehicle when you buy parking there. Think the parking thing is a joke? You have to have proof you own a parking spot before you can buy a car.

Another thing is Shak'en (sp?), the reasont hey get rid of their cars over there. You have a car that breaks down? you will pay for it, it is an inspection that they perform to test the car for reliability and if it has work to be done, if it needs work or had work doen on it you pay a lot more in tax, which is why you dont see cars over 40k miles there.

Ya I still love my american made (I drive a Ford), but we still have it good as consumers compared to Japan. I agree we need to change some of the practices here, but I would not go as far as saying we should mirror what Japan does here.


BTW, said I was working on a nice 2004 GTO, here's a pic off my phone of it, 1000 hp and street legal.....


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TTT, want to hear more on this one, :beer;

I just noticed this thread.....all this US vs Jap car stuff and no one has mentioned that almost all of the the japanese cars we buy are made in the US, with paychecks going to non-union American workers and supporting American business.....the 1970's are over. :):beer;
 
I just noticed this thread.....all this US vs Jap car stuff and no one has mentioned that almost all of the the japanese cars we buy are made in the US, with paychecks going to non-union American workers and supporting American business.....the 1970's are over. :):beer;

Oh it was mentioned that they are assembled in the USA but with most profits going to country of orgin. I cant find the reference now that said over 70% of profits from Japanese cars sold here go back to the Land of The Rising Sun.

The whole topic of this thread is that it is not fair for North American Built cars going into Japan. The 1970's need to come back and help save this country. Hopefully GM will come back without unions and be great once again.
 
Even if the money is going back to Japan, they are running a company well enough to turn a profit and have money to go somewhere, they are still investing lots of mone into the US in parts, wages, infrastructure, etc. that we are still getting good money out of. I dont think we want to force them out of our country and lose what auto industry that is surviving....

And the 1970's is not exactly a time to reference to save the US auto industry, we took a huge hit in that era thanks to 1973 EPA regulations that took your hot engined mustang and added the catalytic converter and smog devices, ya, screams buy an oversized car with crappy mileage. If anything a 1970's era would kill Ford too.

I agree tho, I hope GM comes back twice as strong WITHOUT union workforce, or they might as well save thier time now and sell off their assets in all this, or you will see this again in the near future, and you will see it has nothing to do with the Gov. being involved. :beer;
 
Not exactly my point. Not to bring back '70's gas guzzling cars, but rather they way everyone bought American regardless. It will be a sad day in America when we have to rely on a foreign country for transportation. The foreign auto makers get to sell their cars here for big profits. For foreign people to buy a American car in their country they have to pay big and no profit for the USA. Long live Ford.
 
Not exactly my point. Not to bring back '70's gas guzzling cars, but rather they way everyone bought American regardless. It will be a sad day in America when we have to rely on a foreign country for transportation. The foreign auto makers get to sell their cars here for big profits. For foreign people to buy a American car in their country they have to pay big and no profit for the USA. Long live Ford.

Right there is your problem and you said it yourself. They can make profits off of their cars. We only have a hand full of cars that will be marketable in a country like Japan, and they are cheap cars that automakers can't even make profit on in their own country, how can they do that in another country?

I support American made products as much as the next guy, but the problems need to be fixed at home long before we can start shipping our products over seas. It wasn't the foreign automakers coming over here that ruined the US car segment, it was our mindset that the automakers were bullet proof, profits would forever skyrocket, and brands and unions would prosper.
 
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