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Why are Firefighters so effen lazy

First I am not a full time fire guy. I am on the industrial brigade at work and I would guess you have a very limited perspective being from what most would consider a small town / city. Some of the lager municipalities in Alaska at least respond to multiple serious fires every day! The fire industry varies greatly from one area / department to the next, so lumping all fire guys into your lazy azz hole stereotype is sure to fire up some rebuttals. I have fought live fire in the industrial setting and it is definitely no picnic. As most all of our supply lines are 5"-6" and a hand line is considered 3". Try dragging that while wearing full bunker gear as well as being on breathing air to keep you alive as most all smoke these days is toxic if not IDLH ( immeadiatly dangerous to life and health). It usually requires a minimum of two people to advance that size hose, and when someone on the hose is getting lazy, you all know it, and they get their fair share of crap for being a slacker. After once or twice you do not want them on your hose team as they are not a team player. Once they get that reputation no one will work with them. So they drop off the brigade as it is no fun being that guy.

I am sorry your expirence is different, but rest assured it is not that way everywhere, it may well be in your little fishbowl. To my knowledge the pay is not that great either. I usually make two to three times what they do in a given year.
 
wendell said:
just got back from the local overpaid underworked fire fighter station to inquire about filling up my float air canister... I am so.sorry you lazy ****s had to get off your azz to answer the door.

then was told AFTER a bunch of questions on how the air is filled that they are not compatible from department to department.....wtf.

so asked...if you are at a big disaster and your air ran out so and so fire dept could not fill yer tank and vice verca.....yes according to my fire station here in Snohomish WA. lame
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Seriously? You think they should have filled your tank? They wash their trucks at the station. Maybe you could bring your truck down and they could wash yours too. Or bring your sled down after a day of riding and use one of the bays to melt the ice off. After all you are a taxpayer. They have a kitchen. I'm sure they 'd make you a burger. Being they're just sitting around, why not drop the kids off so you and the wife can see a movie.
In 43 years as a volunteer firefighter, I've never run into a "taxpayer" with such a sense of entitlement. Our 35 member department has a waiting list to join. Members are required to meet a State minimum standard of Firefighter I and 24 hours of continuing eduction per year. Most receive more. We are required to pass physicals and CPR training. About 25 percent of our members are certified First Responders and maintain continuing education hours to stay current. We are on call 24 hours a day, 365 days a year. We have attained one of the highest ISO insurance ratings in the State, higher than some paid departments. We are one of the few totally volunteer departments in the State. No pay for calls or meetings. No compensation for anything with the exception of a picnic once or twice a year and they along with the monthly meetings are alcohol free. Why would us lazy a$$ es ever want to be a firefighter? Wendell you'd never understand and you wouldn't be able to handle it.
 
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So I took a "chill" pill :face-icon-small-coo Paid/volunteer firefighters do a huge amount of training (physical and mental) to get/stay certified but you will find volunteers that just float by "Lazy" to have the status as a "FIREFIGHTER".I guarantee they wouldn't go in a structure fire by my side. Theres not many small Fire Dep. that you can join anymore without Fire Fighter I and CPR or first aid certs.
 
wendell said:
going to stand by my statement on that.
why is it that every professional firefighter job that has an opening...there are hundreds of very well qualified applicants scrambling for that job...hundreds...
Why??? because it is cake. only like 1 in 100 in there lifetimes ever enter a real burning building.

hours...in our are it is like 5 or 6 full days on duty 24 hour then the same or more off. where the fug do i sign up??? oh ya that line is extremely long..lmao

IMO the salary could be cut in half and still fill these jobs with good candidates....maybe just not the good ol boy club that is there now.

this is the truth and the professional firefighters know it.

ouch.

4pm i stopped by our local lazy acres fire station.... And as a previuos post stated ..maybe I did disturb their circle jerk.

volunteer guys ...good on you....but most just do it to boot lick and get in with the pros

flame away

signed
property owner taxpaying watchdog tired of competing with off duty firefighters working on the side on there "resting days"
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You win the most worthless thread of the year award. Hope your house never catches on fire! I can't get past the fact that you thought a fawking fire station would fill your avy pack...
 
if you only new

newmy1 said:
You win the most worthless thread of the year award. Hope your house never catches on fire! I can't get past the fact that you thought a fawking fire station would fill your avy pack...
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yes the neighbors house did burn down to the ground.... everyone in my neck of the woods so upset by the lack of response that the fire district sent out a nice letter to all of us explaining why they could not get there...there are three...3 three...3 manned firestations within 2 miles of this house.... one of the home owners relatives died trying to put it out. I HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIANCE DEALING WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT..... WE SHOULD PRIVATIZE IT FOR HALF THE PRICE. do not believe the feel god chit on the news on how the fire departmenbt is the chit.. THE COPS DESERVE THE MONEY .....NOT THE LAME *** SPOILED FIRE DEPT
 
CAN'T AFFORD TO REFILL MY AVY PACK

yep i am the biggest tightwad on here....... if you only new ...... LMAO just going off the float website and the web on where to go and looking for easy. search the web newmy....fire stations should have no problem helping out their employers.....uh me
 
wendell said:
yes the neighbors house did burn down to the ground.... everyone in my neck of the woods so upset by the lack of response that the fire district sent out a nice letter to all of us explaining why they could not get there...there are three...3 three...3 manned firestations within 2 miles of this house.... one of the home owners relatives died trying to put it out. I HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIANCE DEALING WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT..... WE SHOULD PRIVATIZE IT FOR HALF THE PRICE. do not believe the feel god chit on the news on how the fire departmenbt is the chit.. THE COPS DESERVE THE MONEY .....NOT THE LAME *** SPOILED FIRE DEPT
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what ghetto do you live in?
 
western washington

lucky for most of you that you never have to deal with this. would be fine if privatized....way overpaid
 
Knowing how they treated your neighbor and dealing with that giant burr under your saddle, why would you ask them to fill yo tank? I smell bull $hit here.
 
wendell said:
yep i am the biggest tightwad on here....... if you only new ...... LMAO just going off the float website and the web on where to go and looking for easy. search the web newmy....fire stations should have no problem helping out their employers.....uh me
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Next time you get pulled over for something, tell that cop you're his boss and you pay his salary. Bet you don't get away with a warning.

In my home town (pop. 60,000) they had a private ambulance service for about 20 years. It was not sustainable and they went out of business. They had 6 ambulances and not only serviced the town they operated in, but also about 10 smaller communities that did not have their own service. The city ended up buying the ambulances and are now having the full time fire fighters get EMT training and some are Paramedics. I have a buddy that is on the department who is a paramedic. His in duty time is split between ambulance duty and fire. Yes, he does have a lot of down time. During normal working hours (8- 4:30) they are training, maintaining equipment, and going on calls. After 4:30 they can do whatever they want, but cannot leave the station.
The down time is not really their own, they get woke up in the middle of the night constantly for false alarms, minor car wrecks, and welfare crack heads who call 911 for every little thing so they can get free treatment at the E.R.
I think it would be easy for them to get a bad attitude after dealing with the B.S. of society all night and day.
I don't see how it would be cheaper to run in three shifts. Three times as many employees 3x the cost of training, more salary, more insurance and benefit costs, more administrative costs etc... where is the gain? Just so no one is sitting around between calls? I bet they still wouldn't fill your canister.

I was deployed after 9/11 and was sitting on a ship for weeks. We trained, maintained our gear and played a ton of Playstation... all on the tax payers dollar. When it came time to go fight the fight, the fight got fought. Just like the firefighters.

Just because someone is employed by the government doesn't mean they need to cater to every need of every civilian.

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Now you sound like a broken record. Explain how it would work better if privatized. Maybe you should get a business plan together and take the world by storm...

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God bless the firefighters

Wendell

You seem very angry I hope you find peace, as with all the other angry folks on this thread.

I am glad that there are others willing and able to lend a hand to those in need.
 
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