who is running 19 top gear on a 163 XP?
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Doo is doing mine for free. 19T on a 154, so no 19T on a 163 is not too low unless you want your mountain sled to go 100mph. I think they are running 19's on the 146's as well.
19T with a stock bottom on a 163 XP and your loosing trackspeed.
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163s have a 49 bottom gear, so they are geared stock about the same as a 154 with a 19 top
Opps sorry. I thought they were all geared the same, as the book states different gearing but that is not what's in them..
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newtrout
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Really? I beg to differ on that one. At least not on a steep deep climb.
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hatchers
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the 19 top on a 163 is a bad idea, tried it, dont work.....im going to try the 23 top just for the hell of it, but the stock gearing should be fine, the clutch is junk, a 44/33 helix is the best doo has (i have one with 50ish miles on it for sell) as the DJ helix is the real ticket, prp/pnk primary spring and 22ish grams......im at 10K ele
I am running the 19 on a 163 and really like it. Lots better in the trees.
19/49 on my 163.
I can't think of a time when gearing down a mountain sled didn't help.
With my gearing a can still go 80MPH.
Hatcher you must have one hell of a sled pulling 22g with a 160/350 spring and a DJ or 44/33 helix at 10,000ft. With the same setup, I am using 16g at 8,000ft in clicker 5.
I can't think of a time when gearing down a mountain sled didn't help.
With my gearing a can still go 80MPH.
Hatcher you must have one hell of a sled pulling 22g with a 160/350 spring and a DJ or 44/33 helix at 10,000ft. With the same setup, I am using 16g at 8,000ft in clicker 5.
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what chain do you run with the 19 gear. does it get rid of the dogleg in the chain
Hatch
what you want for you 44/33 helix? thanks
what you want for you 44/33 helix? thanks
i have the stock 21/49 gearing on my 163, seems to be just right for that sled, my riding at 7-11000 ft
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jdog
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I have a 19 on a 163 and I am 265lbs and it works great as long as u clutch it right for ur elevation. I have ran a 20 on top too so I have tried them booth. if u r under 200lbs and have a stock sled I would definatly tell u to go to a 19 tooth. and u do not have to get a different chain I have over 600 miles on mine with a 19 tooth and no problems. u will want to add some wait after u gear down. my 2 cents
I have a 19 on a 163 and I am 265lbs and it works great as long as u clutch it right for ur elevation. I have ran a 20 on top too so I have tried them booth. if u r under 200lbs and have a stock sled I would definatly tell u to go to a 19 tooth. and u do not have to get a different chain I have over 600 miles on mine with a 19 tooth and no problems. u will want to add some wait after u gear down. my 2 cents
dealer is supposed to cover the gear change on the 163 also if requested. dealer just ordered a gear and chain for me. guess i'll have to buy the old one back if i don't like it.
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drop the hammer
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gearing down affecting pin weight
Hmmmmm, Jdog good feedback, we will watch what happens to rpms and necessary pin weight when we do further testing on the 163 with the 19 on top.....my thought process tells me that the primary clutch will close further, causing belt to go higher (meaning clutch will take up the lower gear ratio that the chain/gears present to it), but that means the pin weight will be further from center and wouldn't that mean LESS weight is needed to exert the same belt squeeze force? SInce the further from center the more force would be exerted by a given weight (rpms being constant)....I will duck now as the clutching theory guys come on heavy...either way, field testing will tell me and my riding posse what will happen. Jdog, can you elaborate how much pin weight you added and how yours reacted to the change, may save us some work (i'm assuming you added weight to keep you in the same clicker #, since changin clickers changes ramp angles).
Hmmmmm, Jdog good feedback, we will watch what happens to rpms and necessary pin weight when we do further testing on the 163 with the 19 on top.....my thought process tells me that the primary clutch will close further, causing belt to go higher (meaning clutch will take up the lower gear ratio that the chain/gears present to it), but that means the pin weight will be further from center and wouldn't that mean LESS weight is needed to exert the same belt squeeze force? SInce the further from center the more force would be exerted by a given weight (rpms being constant)....I will duck now as the clutching theory guys come on heavy...either way, field testing will tell me and my riding posse what will happen. Jdog, can you elaborate how much pin weight you added and how yours reacted to the change, may save us some work (i'm assuming you added weight to keep you in the same clicker #, since changin clickers changes ramp angles).
Is 19 tooth the answer??
By changing from a 21 to a 19 tooth top sprocket,that should increase the track speed when hillclimbing and therefore make it climb or pull better in the deep stuff or should I leave it ??? Would it then help out with the ****ty clutching that doesn't seem to hold RPM's after pulling some big climbs.. Just had DJ's kit put in and trying it tomorrow.. Had nothing but problems with the clutching on this.. 580 miles and they had to replace some bushings and cups or somethimg like that in the clutch already.. Arms have been sticking in the primary after 3 or 4 rides also..
By changing from a 21 to a 19 tooth top sprocket,that should increase the track speed when hillclimbing and therefore make it climb or pull better in the deep stuff or should I leave it ??? Would it then help out with the ****ty clutching that doesn't seem to hold RPM's after pulling some big climbs.. Just had DJ's kit put in and trying it tomorrow.. Had nothing but problems with the clutching on this.. 580 miles and they had to replace some bushings and cups or somethimg like that in the clutch already.. Arms have been sticking in the primary after 3 or 4 rides also..
Why do you suggest gearing down for the lighter riders? What is the advantage to gearing down?
