What happened to getting good tires and knowing how to drive?

[Blair]

http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/winter/anti.htm

Just read this piece of spin. They are doing this in Oregon too. We don't need this junk on our roads, ruining our wheels, trailers and making our vehicles rust.

Get some good winter tires if you need them folks, and stay off the roads if you can't figure out they might be slick when it freezes.

 

[WOODIES]

sounds like a good idea, one death prevented is worth a bit of rust.

 

[94fordguy]

That's some good stuff, really helps the traction factor a lot... helps get us up to the snow park and back a lot faster and without as many rock chips

 

[MaineHD]

We have this in Maine as well. Im told it's calcium chloride. I can tell you i have a white truck that is absoluty covered in orange spots that are super tough to take off... which again I'm told form from the calcium chloride solution sprayed onto the roads prior to snow falling. I think its supposed to help with the removal of the snow as well, so it doesn't bond to the pavement as much.

I cant say I like it, seeing as I usually have to completely clay-bar my $ 50k truck three or four times a year. I still see many cars off the road durring storms, but maybe it's a help prior to storms, or durring periods of freezing rain.

 

[revpilot]

It's a way of putting the cookies one shelf lower so the Utards can continue to drive like idiots. (apologies to idiots) That stuff is horrible on underbody areas, it's saltwater. It makes everyone's vehicles look like they're from Michigan.

 

[blackcloud2k]

There are alot of states around the country that have been using this for years. Here in colorado they use that or mag chloride instead of salt, and sometimes sand/gravel as well in really bad spots. It is brutal on cars, but it does seam to help quite a bit.

 

[balcoboy]

It's almost better to not do anything to the roads.... atleast around seattle, anyways. Most of the people here are absolute toolsheds, when it comes to driving. No offense, just callin a spade a spade. I see it all to much, I drive a truck for a living and when it rains it's a joke.... then when it snows it's a disaster. The Dept. of trans should keep everyone off the roads as much as possible. All that spray just gives people who shouldn't be out on the roads a false sense of security so they can just put themselves in a bad predicament.

Just my .02

 

[papa bear]

Here in colorado they use that or mag chloride instead of salt, .

For folks that never took chemistry in high school:

Calcium chloride and magnesium chloride are salts!

Perhaps you wanted to differentiate liquid salt solutions from rock salt.

Typically, rock salt is Sodium Chloride.

 

[Ector]

They have been doing this for a couple of years here in MN to. Night and day difference, IF they get it down before the snow comes. The only problem is that sometimes it’s too cold to put it down. I already drive over an hour to work each way and on snow days, it’s at least double that. If this helps cut down that time, I am all for it. There will always be "challenged" drivers out there. By having better roads, it hopefully cuts down the average drivers accidents and leaves us with only the Mensa wannabes. Nothing brings a bigger smile to my face than to see someone blow by me (when I am already going a little faster than I should) and then see them in the ditch a few miles up the road.

 

[Blair]

They have been doing this for a couple of years here in MN to. Night and day difference, IF they get it down before the snow comes. The only problem is that sometimes it’s too cold to put it down. I already drive over an hour to work each way and on snow days, it’s at least double that. If this helps cut down that time, I am all for it. There will always be "challenged" drivers out there. By having better roads, it hopefully cuts down the average drivers accidents and leaves us with only the Mensa wannabes. Nothing brings a bigger smile to my face than to see someone blow by me (when I am already going a little faster than I should) and then see them in the ditch a few miles up the road.

haha, i know that feeling. i am usually the one pushing it on snow and ice. if someone passes me there is a good chance they will be in the ditch soon

 

[AdrenalineAddict]

I'm on board with you 100%, learn how to drive or get the hell off the road. I grew up in the midwest where travelling on ice covered highways was the norm. Save the tax dollars and put them toward something a little more useful than creating a false sense of security for some jackoff who should have never left the garage. Nothing irritates me more than getting stuck behind some tard going 35 MPH down a perfectly flat 70 MPH wee-bit icy freeway. Step-Up or Stay-Home.

 

[balcoboy]

Nothing irritates me more than getting stuck behind some tard going 35 MPH down a perfectly flat 70 MPH wee-bit icy freeway. Step-Up or Stay-Home.

Oh boy, that absolutly drives me nuts!

 

[Blair]

It just irks me that my tax dollars are being spent to destroy my truck, trailer and wheels all winter.

Guy I've ridden with owns a trucking company and I guess it has raised hell with his aluminum flatbeds.

 

[rotax]

http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/winter/anti.htm

Just read this piece of spin. They are doing this in Oregon too. We don't need this junk on our roads, ruining our wheels, trailers and making our vehicles rust.

Get some good winter tires if you need them folks, and stay off the roads if you can't figure out they might be slick when it freezes.

The real issue is, people don't know how to drive on dry roads, let alone snowy/icy roads.
There needs to be something more significant to getting a drivers license than there is today.
Melting causes ice...which is worse than the 'snow packed' roads in the first place.
Quite often i feel a helluva lot more confident running in the snow packed lane at higher speeds than the "on-off wet/icy" lane.. Even more so with a trailer.

If people understood theres more to driving (expecially in snow) than: "put foot on pedal and turn volume control UP"...thered be a lot less issues today on the road.
but, at the same time i dislike laws and restrictions just about equally as much as i dislike the moron drivers.
so what do you do...share the road with a bunch of morons...

 

[Blair]

well put rotax. i think in germany to get a license you need to illustrate competence in dark/rainy/inclement conditions.

 

[moyiesledhead]

It at least sounds better than the three quarter inch "sand" mixed with salt they dump on the roads around here. They say they use 3/4 because it stays put better. If it's staying put then why's it up on my windshield and headlights costing me hundreds of dollars in broken glass every winter!!!!

 

[Blu Du]

it's better then the rocks montana puts on the road. almost always need a new windsheild after a drive out west

 

[hilinerider]

mt. also mixes salt with those rocks

 

[xrated]

It just irks me that my tax dollars are being spent to destroy my truck, trailer and wheels all winter.

Guy I've ridden with owns a trucking company and I guess it has raised hell with his aluminum flatbeds.

you don't have to drive.

You boys better not follow me. I have no trouble being late or leaving early and going 45 instead of 60.