Water to air intercooler??

[Modedmach1]

I Picked up a powderlites apex this summer, I was looking at the intercooler today & got to thinking. If I tig welded a water jacket around the intercooler would that work?? I would think enclosing where the air goes thru & adding a pump & heat exchanger would be a cheap way to get a water to air intercooler.. THoughts/comments??? THx Josh

 

[LoudHandle]

While that would be better than not having one but it gives you a very limited surface area to chill the air with. Most are many very small tubes with water flowing thru them that gives you much more surface area to cool the air.

 

[gunnerthesnowman]

I Picked up a powderlites apex this summer, I was looking at the intercooler today & got to thinking. If I tig welded a water jacket around the intercooler would that work?? I would think enclosing where the air goes thru & adding a pump & heat exchanger would be a cheap way to get a water to air intercooler.. THoughts/comments??? THx Josh

I was thinking the same thing ,don,t know how it would work , would think it would be better then no outside air flow.
i think the true water to air , the water goes thru the small tubes , the tubes have fins on them ,these water coils are mounted cross ways inside of the intercooler, then the boost inlet air goes thru ( around ) the fins and water tubes.

 

[roughrider99]

I don't think that there be anything to gain with that setup, just weight

 

[gunnerthesnowman]

I don't think that there be anything to gain with that setup, just weight

Ya , you may be right , that why i am going to talk to Neil M.

 

[Nytroboost]

Anyone making water to air for the nytro's? Is it really worth the upgrade from a good air to air?

 

[gunnerthesnowman]

Anyone making water to air for the nytro's? Is it really worth the upgrade from a good air to air?

I think Neil M. at Boost-it makes them , what turbo kit are you running.

 

[Modedmach1]

Ya , you may be right , that why i am going to talk to Neil M.

I am hoping he chimes in here..

I would think that if I put a exchanger in the tunnel it would at least keep it a constant temp. Even if its only a few degrees cooler it would at least be constant. I could be all wet too.. keep the comments coming..

 

[Nytroboost]

I'm running alpine front mount kit.

 

[NM]

I am hoping he chimes in here..

I would think that if I put a exchanger in the tunnel it would at least keep it a constant temp. Even if its only a few degrees cooler it would at least be constant. I could be all wet too.. keep the comments coming..

What you are looking at doing will not work. We almost had a catastrophic failure giving it a try, but hey someone had to try it.
We will have water to air intakes for Apex and Nytro. We are building them in such a way that the charge tube can come from either side or over the top of the air box. We are installing the first one on a Apex right now.
We tested these on a Nytro and a Nypex last season with shocking results.
We had to turn our boost down 4 lbs just to stay on clutching and we're pulling exactly the same trackspeeds at the lower boost figures.
Less boost means that there is less need for higher octane fuel, and less chance of detonation. Not to mention that the motor runs better.
We have found the exact same results with our 2 stroke kit.

 

[Modedmach1]

What you are looking at doing will not work. We almost had a catastrophic failure giving it a try, but hey someone had to try it.
We will have water to air intakes for Apex and Nytro. We are building them in such a way that the charge tube can come from either side or over the top of the air box. We are installing the first one on a Apex right now.
We tested these on a Nytro and a Nypex last season with shocking results.
We had to turn our boost down 4 lbs just to stay on clutching and we're pulling exactly the same trackspeeds at the lower boost figures.
Less boost means that there is less need for higher octane fuel, and less chance of detonation. Not to mention that the motor runs better.
We have found the exact same results with our 2 stroke kit.

Thx!! THat is what I was looking for.. Glad you tried it first, cause I just about had myself talked into doing it..

How much are the apex intercoolers gonna run??? Thx Josh

 

[NM]

Thx!! THat is what I was looking for.. Glad you tried it first, cause I just about had myself talked into doing it..

How much are the apex intercoolers gonna run??? Thx Josh

Pricing is not finalized yet, but they will come as a kit with heat exchanger for the tunnel , water pump, and a filler neck.
We also have fuel/injector rails mounted in them for the guys either running or wanting to buy our fuel system.

 

[Modedmach1]

I'll have to look into getting one.. My sled has your fuel system on so that will work out great for me...

 

[julio]

water to air cooler

brad built me one for my old boony apex and it worked great, he does not mass produce them tho.
as already said converting your air to air would not work..
the only problem I had was it increased my cold engine stumble on strait race so i lowered the octane I was using .
the old intercooler would get really hot on a long climb the water to air was frosty even at spring temps.. julio

 

[NM]

I'll have to look into getting one.. My sled has your fuel system on so that will work out great for me...

Here are some pics of the one going on a friends Apex. We welded a XIC bracket to it so he can mount his fuel box under the hood.
We can actually use the top tank from pretty much any intercooler if it was sent to us. We just cut it off and weld it on to our water to air core. This will reduce the cost.

 

[Modedmach1]

What about a tube intercooler like the one in the pic below???
Cut out the air to air coils, weld to 2peices back together for a air box. Then put the new tube style one in the charge tube.. This intercooler is rated for 550cfm & 600 HP. Not sure if it would work as good or not.

I'm throwing ideas out cause I am the curious sort & like to do stuff myself, provided it is a decent idea. Thx for the comments so far &I keep them coming..

I like the idea of it pulled just as hard w/3lbs less boost....

 

[julio]

water to air cooler

Here are some pics of the one going on a friends Apex. We welded a XIC bracket to it so he can mount his fuel box under the hood.
We can actually use the top tank from pretty much any intercooler if it was sent to us. We just cut it off and weld it on to our water to air core. This will reduce the cost.

that actually looks very similar to the one I had.. looks nice..

 

[pylon]

Build a few and try them out ! haha me and a buddy are starting intercooler number 3 this week to try out this winter . Ones a core from ebay ,so who knows . Ones a air to air . the new one is going to a custom core from another company that specializes in intercoolers . Plus im sure there will be at least one more made up .we will have 2 nypexs that we can swap them around to see what works better on what . The only problem with that barrel one is you would still have to build a plenum .

 

[Tarzannr1]

Pricing is not finalized yet, but they will come as a kit with heat exchanger for the tunnel , water pump, and a filler neck.
We also have fuel/injector rails mounted in them for the guys either running or wanting to buy our fuel system.

This kit will it fit a Mcx turbo system and with the Mtx tunel cooler?
And if so,when will this be ready to buy?

 

[franklin]

Here are some pics of the one going on a friends Apex. We welded a XIC bracket to it so he can mount his fuel box under the hood.
We can actually use the top tank from pretty much any intercooler if it was sent to us. We just cut it off and weld it on to our water to air core. This will reduce the cost.

How much weight gain over air to air, full of coolant?