water to air intercooler

[Snowstar]

I have thought of this for a while too. I found an electic water pump with a 2 amp draw. I also thought of fabbing a mechanical water pump using something like a 650 triple polaris pump using a v-belt driven off the mag end. A small custom built heat exchanger in the tunnel with a bullet charge tube intercooler or airbox.

 

[Dano702]

I have thought of this for a while too. I found an electic water pump with a 2 amp draw. I also thought of fabbing a mechanical water pump using something like a 650 triple polaris pump using a v-belt driven off the mag end. A small custom built heat exchanger in the tunnel with a bullet charge tube intercooler or airbox.

I am on the same page, thought about a few ways to get to that same place . The 169.00 dollar price is just to good to pass up. I was thinking about water temp gauges for inlet and outlet side and EGT gauges to measure inlet charge and outlet charge temps.

Good stuff !

 

[kodiak-79]

I like hatchers idea of mounting the cooler to the hood somehow. I was thinking of using the old m7 cooler that has the curve to it and mounting it on the nose, it would look kinda like a brush guard, then install the pump just inside the nose. That would make a pretty short distance to the water/air pipe with your hoses also.

 

[JSCC]

Well damnit, someone else found my intercooler.... This will be on my sled this year. I will not be using any pumps to make it work though.

 

[Vertical-Extreme]

I Can 't belive all the other guys that are trying to make this work too, haha I thought I was workin on something unique

 

[kodiak-79]

lol, lets see some pics, this is gettin exciting!!!!

 

[hobbes]

Saw Brad's setup on both his M1200T and Eli's Nytro/IQ/RX1 (don't ask) turbo last winter. Watched Eli run his hard for a couple of pulls, put my hand on his water/air IC and it almost froze to it. I'd like to figure out something like it for my Apex for sure.

 

[mmsports]

Cooler

I think you need to be thinking out of the box. Just hold on I should have something in about a month that will get you excited.

 

[Vertical-Extreme]

Saw Brad's setup on both his M1200T and Eli's Nytro/IQ/RX1 (don't ask) turbo last winter. Watched Eli run his hard for a couple of pulls, put my hand on his water/air IC and it almost froze to it. I'd like to figure out something like it for my Apex for sure.

That sled is unbelievable !!

 

[chris79]

That sled is unbelievable !!

Shouldn't you be working guy

 

[Vertical-Extreme]

Shouldn't you be working guy

This is work, hahaha I am doing "design" research

 

[hatchers]

Well damnit, someone else found my intercooler.... This will be on my sled this year. I will not be using any pumps to make it work though.

spill the beans man.....couple more weeks and its dune time

 

[JSCC]

spill the beans man.....couple more weeks and its dune time

Hahaha.

Think about this. Where can you get the coolest water from? Where is it most consistant? If you are worried about heat into the engine, where does the water go from the engine? The pumps a working already. No need to reinvent the wheel. You just need it tied in at the right locations....

This is the way I look at it. With this cooler, there is no added plumbing like a front mount cooler. So the lag issue is now null and void over "my" previous setup. My other issue is consistancy. You know, get's hot on long runs, (they all do no matter who is selling the product), so jetting get's rich on the top, or is lean when I let it cool down.
So, if a typical engine is running 120*?, the water coming into the engine must be atleast half that wouldnt you think? And since right where it comes into the engine is it's coolest point all the time, I would imagine I should be able to run a consistant 60ish degree water through it most of the time...? Even if it runs above or below this point, it still will be more consitant than any other setup I have seen.

 

[hatchers]

got it

 

[kodiak-79]

pics?

 

[hobbes]

Hahaha.

Think about this. Where can you get the coolest water from? Where is it most consistant? If you are worried about heat into the engine, where does the water go from the engine? The pumps a working already. No need to reinvent the wheel. You just need it tied in at the right locations....

This is the way I look at it. With this cooler, there is no added plumbing like a front mount cooler. So the lag issue is now null and void over "my" previous setup. My other issue is consistancy. You know, get's hot on long runs, (they all do no matter who is selling the product), so jetting get's rich on the top, or is lean when I let it cool down.
So, if a typical engine is running 120*?, the water coming into the engine must be atleast half that wouldnt you think? And since right where it comes into the engine is it's coolest point all the time, I would imagine I should be able to run a consistant 60ish degree water through it most of the time...? Even if it runs above or below this point, it still will be more consitant than any other setup I have seen.

How about water temps running through your intercooler that are below freezing? THAT is where a real performance gain will come from. A seperate antifreeze/water circuit that is driven by an electrical pump (like maybe a fishtank waterpump, just thinking outloud ) with it's own small heat exchanger in the tunnel (or along the boards like an original apex was, again just thinking outloud ) that flows through your water/air intercooler (that can be much more compact (read less pressure drop) than an air/air intercooler). Again, I've seen it run, watched it make a few pulls, and felt my hand stick to it like a 3rd grader's tongue on a flagpole in January.

 

[JSCC]

That would be incredible, no doubt about it!
The worry is the extra power needed to run the extra pump. It would be interesting to know how much power one of those little pumps draw...

 

[hatchers]

another reason i wish electric start was an option on the M...screw the weight, these things rip

 

[harf69]

the air to water intercooler is already out on the rmk and shane hart can build them for a cat he has built a few just go to http://www.hmturbos.com/page14/page14.html

 

[MCIVER]

anyone come up with anything?