Id like to save some money over the summer and hopefully buy a used turbo sled for my last season before i head into the navy, and cant decide between a 4 stroke turbo or 2 stroke. Ive been doing alot of research on the 4 strokes and i like the fact that the engines on those yami's can go a VERY long time if built right. But the used 2-stroke turbo 's are usually a little bit cheaper and thats always a plus. I was wondering how long the engines last on the arctic cats with say a twisted race gas turbo kit running around 10-12lbs every weekend? Would i be doing rebuilds and fuel maintinence? Just looking for a basic rundown of how those arctic cat turbos hold up. Im a newbie on these engines with turbos so school me. I know there's been threads on this just looking for some new opinions. All replys will be greatly appreciated, Thanks.
Turbo 2-stoke arctic cat questions. need some opinions
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I got a deal for you. lol
As far as twisted goes.
I think hatchers on here went 3000 miles on that kind of boost and the pistons still looked good. The only thing I have had to change on mine in 2000 is the reeds. The tuning is simple once you figure it out, I tune mine for about 2 minutes a ride to make sure all is good and hardly look at the gauges again.
I know a guy running a pg bd kit and has 4000miles with 3300 on boost, still going strong.
If your looking, I am going to sell my twisted M8, or my m1000 which ever goes first. I could deliver it as well .
As far as twisted goes.
I think hatchers on here went 3000 miles on that kind of boost and the pistons still looked good. The only thing I have had to change on mine in 2000 is the reeds. The tuning is simple once you figure it out, I tune mine for about 2 minutes a ride to make sure all is good and hardly look at the gauges again.
I know a guy running a pg bd kit and has 4000miles with 3300 on boost, still going strong.
If your looking, I am going to sell my twisted M8, or my m1000 which ever goes first. I could deliver it as well .
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Hairy Mark
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heres one for you.
i would would bring it to you or i could meet you somewhere so you could ride it.
http://www.snowestonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=267082
i would would bring it to you or i could meet you somewhere so you could ride it.
http://www.snowestonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=267082
For that sled at that price I must not be asking enough,
backcountry has a really nice one for sale too, prob the best deal on a proven sled you'll find on here.
backcountry has a really nice one for sale too, prob the best deal on a proven sled you'll find on here.
My vote is two stroke. There will be a learning curve. It's generally way less if you ride with another similar turbo.
Most of the M8s were pretty dang reliable. I get the feeling the 09 might have been one of the best due to the low ported motor working with a turbo so nicely plus the improved drive and chassis.
Most of the M8s were pretty dang reliable. I get the feeling the 09 might have been one of the best due to the low ported motor working with a turbo so nicely plus the improved drive and chassis.
I don't see a point in getting a 4 stoke, if you are only riding for a season, just about any m8 will work and are proven. I have heard from at least 4 different groups that say there twisted m8's have less problems than all the other sleds they ride with. (I don't think they rode with yami's though) The 2 stroke is so much more fun its not even funny.
There is a learning curve, I talked to the right person one time and thats all I needed. I watched many people screw with bd kits for years always screwing with them so I learned up on what it took. Or as much as I could without having one anyway. The twisted kits when done right, really are as easy as I stated, I know many that say the same. If you buy a twisted or any other there is tons of info already on this forum, it would be wise to read up (if you havent already)
Its also nice when the previous owner gives you the right info.
There is a learning curve, I talked to the right person one time and thats all I needed. I watched many people screw with bd kits for years always screwing with them so I learned up on what it took. Or as much as I could without having one anyway. The twisted kits when done right, really are as easy as I stated, I know many that say the same. If you buy a twisted or any other there is tons of info already on this forum, it would be wise to read up (if you havent already)
Its also nice when the previous owner gives you the right info.
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mynewuseddoo
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I've got about 1400 miles (1000 boosted) on mine and have never had a problem with my CPC turbo set up. As luck would have it I'm selling mine too. 09 162 m8 snopro with CPC stage 2 turbo kit and a bunch of other goodies. Summer pricing of $12,000 if you're interested.
You get any bites on it for $12000,
Ditto on the learning curve being minimal.
I bought Abby her 09, she rode it... We had a bog 1400 miles later, it was a wire that was rubbing. We replaced pistons & reeds at 1650 & both looked perfect... longer than I ever would have gone on one of my 1000's.(for pistons, not reeds) I still have the reeds sitting in a bag in case I need some.
No pushing buttons, no issues for 1400 miles. I would ask her to check her afr here & there to be sure she was paying attention, but seriously, that's it. oh, we check the turbo oil to be sure it's pumping here & there. After some talk of people running higher boost on here on PG, we decided to try pushing it last month, we're running 10.5 on pump now, no signs of det & have yet to EVER hit the det sensor.
I really feel that if you have it built right, they're not that different.
Getting into 2 strokes was a WAY bigger learning curve for me.
oh yeah, buy my sled.
Don't leave your attitude box on top of your post... there, I just shortened that curve for ya. Only thing I've had issues with on my 11... broken boost nipple will slow you down. Oh, don't let pieces of belt get in the BOV either...
Wealth of knowledge I am.
I bought Abby her 09, she rode it... We had a bog 1400 miles later, it was a wire that was rubbing. We replaced pistons & reeds at 1650 & both looked perfect... longer than I ever would have gone on one of my 1000's.(for pistons, not reeds) I still have the reeds sitting in a bag in case I need some.
No pushing buttons, no issues for 1400 miles. I would ask her to check her afr here & there to be sure she was paying attention, but seriously, that's it. oh, we check the turbo oil to be sure it's pumping here & there. After some talk of people running higher boost on here on PG, we decided to try pushing it last month, we're running 10.5 on pump now, no signs of det & have yet to EVER hit the det sensor.
I really feel that if you have it built right, they're not that different.
Getting into 2 strokes was a WAY bigger learning curve for me.
oh yeah, buy my sled.
Don't leave your attitude box on top of your post... there, I just shortened that curve for ya. Only thing I've had issues with on my 11... broken boost nipple will slow you down. Oh, don't let pieces of belt get in the BOV either...
Wealth of knowledge I am.
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wasatchcomm
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i would go 2stroke, plus, if you are going to sell it next year it should be a little easier to sell,,,
turbo m8's work!!!!!
turbo m8's work!!!!!
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mynewuseddoo
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Yeah a bunch. Mostly people on the fence and really not sure about getting into a turbo sled, tire kickers.
I was think 10000 for mine
so why the heck are we 4k below that price & having almost no bites????
Not the end of the world to keep it another year though either I guess, but I can't believe how few people are buying right now.
Not the end of the world to keep it another year though either I guess, but I can't believe how few people are buying right now.
I don't see why when I have seen some with 4000 miles and never touched, maybe we should up the price, maybe they think you get what you pay for. I would throw in a warranty with mine if the person rode with me so I could make sure they know whats going on.
Running a bigbore now, wanting a turbo for my next sled but like most guys new to turbos my personal feeling is that Fear of the unknown. I know I can't afford a new sled but am trying to learn as much as I can so when the time comes I can make a good decision. If someone would spend a day on the hill with me teaching me how everything works and how to tune it'd be a done deal...assuming I had the money right now...which I don't...to me that is part if the problem as well as buying someone elses nightmare. I think that is why you see so many guys kickin tires.
I don't even really want to sell one without being able to spend some time teaching someone about the kit, unless they have owned a turbo. The last thing I want is some to buy my sled and mess with the setting and cause a failure, most would turn around and blame me. I would definitely spend a day, weekend or what ever showing someone how to work the setup and teach them all the things to watch for, how it should feel, and the difference in riding technique. Even if they didn't buy mine I enjoy teaching when I can.
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