Where is the hole for the exhaust to come through?
Looks interesting though. Love your skid plates.
Trail Tank Comments
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Where is the hole for the exhaust to come through?
Looks interesting though. Love your skid plates.this thread needs to smoke a joint
This is just silly... How many iterations of a perfect tank from a perfect company have their been now.
Summitboy is right. The aftermarket for snowmobiles is pathetic compared to other industries. It can be ridiculous what they charge snowmobilers for in comparison to the other sports, and the quality is much better. I guess it helps that the other vehicles are much better than snowmobiles to start with..
Summitboy is right. The aftermarket for snowmobiles is pathetic compared to other industries. It can be ridiculous what they charge snowmobilers for in comparison to the other sports, and the quality is much better. I guess it helps that the other vehicles are much better than snowmobiles to start with..
We could go on and on and on about $hit products because let's face it there have been lots, why that is doesn't even matter. More on point is so many products get built and hyped all to hell on here then sold and they really kinda miss the true target.
This whole trail Tank thing is a perfect example. Obviously they have the ability to build a fuel tank so why not build one that actually better suits what the sled needs. I'm not disputing the need for more fuel on board, I'm not a "rtard" I get it, I pack 2 gerrys on the back and use them everyday. Sure you can make a muffin top fat tank that looks like crap and you can't use half your stock plastics but, I know one of the reasons that a lot of you guys who are defending this design bought Yamis in the first place is due to the fit and finish and the reliability of the motor. I'm sorry but the way the plastics go back on is flat out CHUMP, I look at that setup and say "really thats it".
It's no secret Yamaha's are front heavy pigs so if I'm lucky enough to happen to own a company that has the capability to design and manufacture a fuel tank I'm going to build one that has a long neck, carries more fuel, has a high low seat option and allows the stock plastics to be used. It would be called the "Boondockin Mountain Tank" with no mention of the word Trail anywhere. Not only would it move the extra fuel rearward it would move all the fuel rearward. When I built my Impulse Rx1 and used the Rev tank there wasn't a single other change I ever made, skids shocks balh balh blah $$$$ that had a larger impact on the handling of that sled than the Rev tank. The difference was dramatic.
Hey aftermarket it's not frickin rocket science just do your homework, you'd sell a pile of them everyone in the mountains would buy one, I would in a heartbeat and if it was a well built product and worked as advertised I'd be more than happy to say so on here or anywhere else.
M5
This whole trail Tank thing is a perfect example. Obviously they have the ability to build a fuel tank so why not build one that actually better suits what the sled needs. I'm not disputing the need for more fuel on board, I'm not a "rtard" I get it, I pack 2 gerrys on the back and use them everyday. Sure you can make a muffin top fat tank that looks like crap and you can't use half your stock plastics but, I know one of the reasons that a lot of you guys who are defending this design bought Yamis in the first place is due to the fit and finish and the reliability of the motor. I'm sorry but the way the plastics go back on is flat out CHUMP, I look at that setup and say "really thats it".
It's no secret Yamaha's are front heavy pigs so if I'm lucky enough to happen to own a company that has the capability to design and manufacture a fuel tank I'm going to build one that has a long neck, carries more fuel, has a high low seat option and allows the stock plastics to be used. It would be called the "Boondockin Mountain Tank" with no mention of the word Trail anywhere. Not only would it move the extra fuel rearward it would move all the fuel rearward. When I built my Impulse Rx1 and used the Rev tank there wasn't a single other change I ever made, skids shocks balh balh blah $$$$ that had a larger impact on the handling of that sled than the Rev tank. The difference was dramatic.
Hey aftermarket it's not frickin rocket science just do your homework, you'd sell a pile of them everyone in the mountains would buy one, I would in a heartbeat and if it was a well built product and worked as advertised I'd be more than happy to say so on here or anywhere else.
M5
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judger101
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id agree that it isnt perfect, but why would they invest much more into the trail tank to better it? they pretty much have a corner on the market in that department. ive thought about buying one, but i haul gas on the back as i have read quite a few threads with people having fit problems like the above. i dont feel like i should have to use a ratchet strap to get a part to fit on my sled.
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TRUEBLUEMAX
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I almost bought a trail tank last year myself. I am glad that I didn't. My only reason is the reason that M5 is harping on. I took a lot of weight off of the sled last year and it made it even more dramatic how front end heavy this sled is. My focus has now shifted from just weight loss to moving any weight possible off of the front end. I think even if I can move 25-30 pounds off of the front end it will make a big difference.
Gee wiz skipper never thought of that. I thought maybe it would come out the filler cap to pre heat the fuel. Kinda like the doo carb heaters.
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Honestly, I don't get it.??
I installed this tank last summer.
I documented the installation at LENGTH in a review thread.
I removed and reinstalled it at least a half dozen times on my Nytro.
And NOT ONCE did I ever have any problem with it.
No Trimming
No Modifications
No failure to match up with the plastic panels on the sled.
It was SNUG, but it absolutely fit.
Why is there such a VAST difference in installation experiences here???
To all those pi$$ing and moaning, how about this:
Go design your own extra capacity tank, build a proto-type, test fit it on each model that it's designed for, field test it, then go into production and start selling them.
Go design your own extra capacity tank, build a proto-type, test fit it on each model that it's designed for, field test it, then go into production and start selling them.
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08nytromtxa
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You must have got a different molded tank then because I was there helping him with ratchet straps thinking the whole time what a waste of money... Then time to trim the hood so it went on far enough to get the bolts in.
I'll expand a little more with my experience since I was on my phone the last time I posted. I installed a Boondocker turbo kit, which is a front mount. The only way for a front mount to work is to have a modified fuel tank, which the trail tank included with my kit came molded with enough space to clear the turbo components.
When it came time to install it, I wasn't exactly impressed with having to drill the tank and install the fittings myself. The biggest concern is that the fuel line on the bottom is just a push in rubber plug. IMO, its not the best solution when it is only a few inches away from a turbo.
Concerns aside, we continued with the installation.
It slid into the "hoop" just fine, but the bottom was a PITA to get on the studs so it could be bolted down. Eventually we got everything installed and I threw the plastics back on. It was about 3 inches short of the bolt holes lining up. We pushed, pulled, cussed, and scratched our heads. I ended up drilling new holes in the plastic so I could get it buttoned up. The biggest eyesore though was the huge gaps left on the sides, I was really not impressed at this point.
Throwing caution to the wind, and ready to feel forced induction at my fingertips I filled my tank with 110 @ ~7.50 a gallon. I topped it off, only to watch the vent line siphon out about half a gallon of fuel onto the trailer. We double checked the location of the vent, and it is exactly where it is supposed to go per the instructions included with the tank. Again, I wasn't impressed seeing liquid money running out of my tank.
Down a half gallon of fuel, we went riding anyways. A few short miles into the maiden voyage, I blew the coolant line that comes off the middle of the turbo. Upon later inspection the tank was sitting too close to the turbo, putting the coolant line at an awkward angle and caused the hose to split. We put in some shims to lift the tank up about 1/4 inch and haven't had an issue since.
The first generation also has no fuel gauge, and being a black tank it is always a guessing game late in the day, and that doesn't make me feel warm and fuzzy at all.
So in summary: poor fit/finish, sketchy fittings, siphons fuel out the vent, no fuel gauge, and caused failure in a coolant line due to the turbo recess not being quite deep enough. It is functional, but took some work to get it that way.
All of that being said, I own a first generation trail tank. The reports and pictures I've seen on the newer tanks leads me to believe that they took the feedback the sled community gave them and are working to improve their product so they work as advertised. The stories about sending out newer tanks speaks volumes about customer service as well, and that tells me all I need to know about them as a company. I wouldn't hesitate to send them money...in fact I just shot them an e-mail to see if they make the newer generation with the turbo recess.
When it came time to install it, I wasn't exactly impressed with having to drill the tank and install the fittings myself. The biggest concern is that the fuel line on the bottom is just a push in rubber plug. IMO, its not the best solution when it is only a few inches away from a turbo.
Concerns aside, we continued with the installation.
It slid into the "hoop" just fine, but the bottom was a PITA to get on the studs so it could be bolted down. Eventually we got everything installed and I threw the plastics back on. It was about 3 inches short of the bolt holes lining up. We pushed, pulled, cussed, and scratched our heads. I ended up drilling new holes in the plastic so I could get it buttoned up. The biggest eyesore though was the huge gaps left on the sides, I was really not impressed at this point.
Throwing caution to the wind, and ready to feel forced induction at my fingertips I filled my tank with 110 @ ~7.50 a gallon. I topped it off, only to watch the vent line siphon out about half a gallon of fuel onto the trailer. We double checked the location of the vent, and it is exactly where it is supposed to go per the instructions included with the tank. Again, I wasn't impressed seeing liquid money running out of my tank.
Down a half gallon of fuel, we went riding anyways. A few short miles into the maiden voyage, I blew the coolant line that comes off the middle of the turbo. Upon later inspection the tank was sitting too close to the turbo, putting the coolant line at an awkward angle and caused the hose to split. We put in some shims to lift the tank up about 1/4 inch and haven't had an issue since.
The first generation also has no fuel gauge, and being a black tank it is always a guessing game late in the day, and that doesn't make me feel warm and fuzzy at all.
So in summary: poor fit/finish, sketchy fittings, siphons fuel out the vent, no fuel gauge, and caused failure in a coolant line due to the turbo recess not being quite deep enough. It is functional, but took some work to get it that way.
All of that being said, I own a first generation trail tank. The reports and pictures I've seen on the newer tanks leads me to believe that they took the feedback the sled community gave them and are working to improve their product so they work as advertised. The stories about sending out newer tanks speaks volumes about customer service as well, and that tells me all I need to know about them as a company. I wouldn't hesitate to send them money...in fact I just shot them an e-mail to see if they make the newer generation with the turbo recess.
Thanks. That explains quite a bit more for me.
What year was that??
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What year was that??
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I ordered my kit in 2010, but I have a feeling that Boondocker had the original tanks in stock, so that is what they shipped me.
New Tank just arrived.
Did a super quick fit test.
Drops right into place.
While it fit well before, it fits EASILY now.
No tension on any fittings, just drops directly into place with no coaxing at all.
Did a super quick fit test.
Drops right into place.
While it fit well before, it fits EASILY now.
No tension on any fittings, just drops directly into place with no coaxing at all.
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charger0926
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New Tank just arrived.
Did a super quick fit test.
Drops right into place.
While it fit well before, it fits EASILY now.
No tension on any fittings, just drops directly into place with no coaxing at all.
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would like to see pics of the install with the dzeus fittings on this one. i just recieved my new tank and it still has the older style thumbscrews. a little bummed about that.
Will do.
I have been just crazy busy of late and haven't touched the sled.
God willing, I will have some time at the end of this week to finally get going on this.
I have been just crazy busy of late and haven't touched the sled.
God willing, I will have some time at the end of this week to finally get going on this.
Well, your "to do" list has got to be much shorter than last season, so I'm sure you'll do just fine. How much lighter are YOU now?
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Tarzannr1
Well-known member
I've seen these pictures of the new Trail tank and its just by the look looks better 
Now it uses OEM Yamaha Hood and side pannel fastners.
Also has a deeper channel for the MCX fuel return hose that also is a huge improvement.
Maybe i have to order me a new one and give it a second chance
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Now it uses OEM Yamaha Hood and side pannel fastners.
Also has a deeper channel for the MCX fuel return hose that also is a huge improvement.
Maybe i have to order me a new one and give it a second chance
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