There are only 3 trucks on the 1/2t list and Tundra isn't one of them.
Toyota question
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I have a comment.
Why The F aren't you buying American?????
Did Indiana separate?
Or do they have only japanese people working in the Indiana factory?
I went to look at a tundra last week...no crew maxes in stock...they'll be getting ONE in four weeks.
It'd be a lot easier to buy one of these if they had any to sell.
It'd be a lot easier to buy one of these if they had any to sell.
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clay hale
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have had one for a year now 81500 miles and thank god i dont have to buy gas when i drive it for personal use like sled once or twice weekly going to the dunes twice weekly . one time pulled my brothers enclosed from blackfoot to sheep creek had to gas up at swanvalley on the way there .when the boss bought me this truck i took my toolboxes out of my ford f150 went right in toy but bumper was 8 inches lower had to buy air bags and run 35psi just to keep level has good power for 1/2 ton and lots of gadgets . but 7 to 8 miles to the gallon with small 14ft trailer i pull is laime
So then what is the Tundra classified as? A 3/8ths ton, 5/8ths ton, 23/48ths ton?
have had one for a year now 81500 miles and thank god i dont have to buy gas when i drive it for personal use like sled once or twice weekly going to the dunes twice weekly . one time pulled my brothers enclosed from blackfoot to sheep creek had to gas up at swanvalley on the way there .when the boss bought me this truck i took my toolboxes out of my ford f150 went right in toy but bumper was 8 inches lower had to buy air bags and run 35psi just to keep level has good power for 1/2 ton and lots of gadgets . but 7 to 8 miles to the gallon with small 14ft trailer i pull is laime
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come down here and there are plenty
But in all seriousness, ive driven the tundra and a few friends own them. They are perfectly capable half tons, and anyone who doesnt believe so is kidding themselves...But hey if you wanna believe the ford "durability" test, or the dodge commercial where they jump their trucks through FIRE!!!!! then your too far gone to be saved.....
I trust toyota, due to the fact that everyone ive had in the family have exceeded 200k in miles with regular maintence and extremely little problems, if anything....
Ive driven Yotas all my life and wont stop anytime soon....
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Ron
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Tundra
I own a Tundra and have mixed feelings about it. Drives like a car, lots of power & economy can be very good if you drive for economy. It is very close to a 3/4 ton and in many ways meets or exceeds my last 3/4, a 2005.
Towing is a different story though. I towed a travel trailer to Alaska (7000 lbs loaded, eq htch) and tow an enclosed snowmobile trailer (4-4,500 lbs). Other than the funky VSC the truck handles a load as well as my 3/4.
The truck is not designed to tow in the mountains, does OK with no hills. First the transmission splits are way high in 3rd, 4th and 5th gear. 5th is actually one of two overdrives so you basically have a 4 speed, with 2 overdrives. 3rd gear will run 80 MPH. The engine torque curve is too high, not matched to the transmission & not enough torque to pull at lower R's where economy is acceptable. I had a lot of time to experiment duing 5 full days of driving to and from Alaska. I could run with a Chev 6.0 6 speed, but he killed me on hills and with mileage. On many hills I had to run in 3rd gear vs 4th or 5th for the Chev. My mileage 7-9, his 10-12. Assuming I had something wrong, dealer had 2 Toyota techs fly out from Portland and spent a full day with my truck, full diagnostics, towing etc. Truck deemed to be perfect tune by Toyota, some excuses but no help. Tow Haul mode locks up the torque converter a must for towing. Toyota missed the opportunity to have TH adjust engine torque-it seems like that could be done since intake & exhaust valves have variable valve timing.
I can get 11-12 towing my lighter sled trailer if I don't get to many hills but around 10 is more typical. Another issue is Ethanol & towing. Eth. kills economy and power, more than the loss of energy would dictate. With ethanol I end up one gear lower, high R's, more fuel consumption. Love the backup camera, bluetooth, seats, other driver comforts. The layout of controls & switches are piecemeal, not as well designed as Chev or Ford.
Summary-this would be a 1st class truck competitive with some 3/4's if the tranny gear splits were lower and if the engine power band was more like a truck than like a car. Consumer Reports almost always rates Toyota's a buy but not the Tundra with a lower quality rating than Chev, comparable to Ford.
I own a Tundra and have mixed feelings about it. Drives like a car, lots of power & economy can be very good if you drive for economy. It is very close to a 3/4 ton and in many ways meets or exceeds my last 3/4, a 2005.
Towing is a different story though. I towed a travel trailer to Alaska (7000 lbs loaded, eq htch) and tow an enclosed snowmobile trailer (4-4,500 lbs). Other than the funky VSC the truck handles a load as well as my 3/4.
The truck is not designed to tow in the mountains, does OK with no hills. First the transmission splits are way high in 3rd, 4th and 5th gear. 5th is actually one of two overdrives so you basically have a 4 speed, with 2 overdrives. 3rd gear will run 80 MPH. The engine torque curve is too high, not matched to the transmission & not enough torque to pull at lower R's where economy is acceptable. I had a lot of time to experiment duing 5 full days of driving to and from Alaska. I could run with a Chev 6.0 6 speed, but he killed me on hills and with mileage. On many hills I had to run in 3rd gear vs 4th or 5th for the Chev. My mileage 7-9, his 10-12. Assuming I had something wrong, dealer had 2 Toyota techs fly out from Portland and spent a full day with my truck, full diagnostics, towing etc. Truck deemed to be perfect tune by Toyota, some excuses but no help. Tow Haul mode locks up the torque converter a must for towing. Toyota missed the opportunity to have TH adjust engine torque-it seems like that could be done since intake & exhaust valves have variable valve timing.
I can get 11-12 towing my lighter sled trailer if I don't get to many hills but around 10 is more typical. Another issue is Ethanol & towing. Eth. kills economy and power, more than the loss of energy would dictate. With ethanol I end up one gear lower, high R's, more fuel consumption. Love the backup camera, bluetooth, seats, other driver comforts. The layout of controls & switches are piecemeal, not as well designed as Chev or Ford.
Summary-this would be a 1st class truck competitive with some 3/4's if the tranny gear splits were lower and if the engine power band was more like a truck than like a car. Consumer Reports almost always rates Toyota's a buy but not the Tundra with a lower quality rating than Chev, comparable to Ford.
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Ron
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It's a 5.7L, I did mention 2 overdrives and 4 regular-that's a 6 speed. There isn't anything wrong with the power of the engine, it's the package, the more weight the more the limitations rear an ugly head. I don't even mind it on short tows around home. It's a great vehicle without a load and could be great towing if Toy got their $hit together.
Get a rig on the road where fuel locations may be 100 miles apart and you soon live by economy and distance between refills. At 7-8 MPG you start looking for fuel at 150 miles but if it's a choice of 100 or 200 then you end up refilling every 100 miles, a real PITA.
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Nikolai
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Holy frame flex, man am I glad I bought the chevy. I normally ignore ads from mfg's bashing other mfg's but I would NEVER buy a Tundra after watching that. When I was looking at new trucks, the Tundras two major turn offs for me were in fact the frame and the poor mpg(from what I've read). I ended up with an 08' chevy crew half ton and love it. The room in the back of the crewmax is nice though.
wasn't there a thread not too long ago that had a tundra getting dominated in the whoopty doo's??????????
i have a comment.
Why the f aren't you buying american?????
because my 04 chevy is a pice of sh!t
