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too strong of a currency?

i find it difficult to see gold as a limited commodity considering the very first ounce and every ounce there after ever found is still in existence somewhere
agreed, well except for all the engagement rings that get lost every year... lol

That might be true if you could create gold but it is a limited comodity and as such there aint much more left to be found at yesterdays cost of extraction. Swampy
They still mine for gold (it is just really expensive), and they still find new uses for it as well. Speculators also manipulate the price of gold too...

Uh your using a result to define a cause, your cause and effect scenarios are reversed.
I never stated a cause. Inflation can occur to to an increase in monetary supply or a decrease in resources, or it can occur just because people think it should (perception). Look at right now, not much inflation occur with the dollar is there? Yet there have been a lot of quantitative easing going on.... hence the perception part of inflation.

To accurately define something, shouldn't you list the cause and the effect? Not sure why you list only the cause and no effect.

Websters dictionary:
a continuing rise in the general price level usually attributed to an increase in the volume of money and credit relative to available goods and services
investopedia
The rate at which the general level of prices for goods and services is rising, and, subsequently, purchasing power is falling.
 
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Are gold certificates still being created? Do most people buying gold nowdays receive actual metal or are they just getting a piece of paper?
I find it hard to believe with the amount of people "buying gold" recently, that there is enough actual gold in existence to satisfy the demand. Am I off base here?

excellent question..., I think it is all backed by real gold though.. which is why the more people buy it, the more expensive it gets.

Looks like it is mostly unallocated gold and that means that it isn't backed by gold.

http://goldprice.org/buying-gold/

The institution may or may not have sufficient gold to cover the total value of all unallocated gold accounts and even if they do, they are also not bound to NOT use that gold elsewhere for another purpose, neither do they assume any responsibility for the safe deposit or storage done by a third party on their behalf.

They recommend that if you are buying gold, buy the real thing only.
 
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excellent question..., I think it is all backed by real gold though.. which is why the more people buy it, the more expensive it gets.

Who oversees this? Our government?? LOL

I know nothing about this stuff....but as an observer and talking with people, it seems half the guys I work with have been dumping 10's of thousands of dollars into "gold". I just find it difficult to believe this is a "solid" investment....with literally thousands of websites popping up lately where you can send them money and they send you "gold"....but do they really issue every investor the actual metal? If it's paper (or just a number on the computer screen?), how does this not create another "bubble"?
I may be totally off base in my observations, maybe someone that follows this stuff can help me make sense of this.
 
I know nothing about this stuff....but as an observer and talking with people, it seems half the guys I work with have been dumping 10's of thousands of dollars into "gold". I just find it difficult to believe this is a "solid" investment....

I think in the long term it is a horrible investment. Short term... well it depends.

10's of thousands of dollars??? That is scary man. Gold is so volatile right now... With times these tough, I have a hard time putting money into an investment like that.

Oh, and I updated my post with information, it seems that there are two methods of buying gold, one is allocated, which means you bought the real thing, and the other is unallocated, which means you bought a promise..
 
It seems like the latest trendy form of pyramid scheme.....people are making alot of $$ (or at least people are sending them alot of $$) selling something they probably don't even posess....something supposedly valuable but you cannot buy a loaf of bread with it at the store.
 
Gold vs. food and fuel

In 1951 a pound of gold would buy 312 bushels of corn or 2800 gallons of gas. Today, 60 years later, that same pound of gold will buy 3957 bushels of corn or 8022 gallons of gas.
 
I think in the long term it is a horrible investment. Short term... well it depends.

10's of thousands of dollars??? That is scary man. Gold is so volatile right now... With times these tough, I have a hard time putting money into an investment like that.

Or $30 for 3 years of SW premium, from the SW defender extrordinaire?
 
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You might be surprised to learn that the actual definition of inflation is an increase in the amount of money or credit availlable to purchase the same amount of goods. And guess what you could most likely buy a new car with the same amount of gold dollars that was used to buy a new model T Ford. Pretty steady I would say. Swampy

I would completely disagree with this!! The economy of the late 90's up to 2007 was nothing more than people refinancing and leveraging their homes. No inflation there.

Greenspan, Clinton and Bush Admin., the banks, and that gay A$$ Barney Frank figured out a way to let the middle class have more than they could afford.

"The same amount of goods"...does this mean more demand than supply? the only thing I can think of recently would be the worst energy decision this country has ever made....ETHANOL....

Since this country has decided to use CORN in everything, the commodity market went crazy. The shortage of corn in the market caused the prices to go up for everything else (food especially) Once again, Greenspan manipulated or market, Bush kept killing the value of the US dollar. But inflation didn't happen. Hmmm.
 
In 1951 a pound of gold would buy 312 bushels of corn or 2800 gallons of gas. Today, 60 years later, that same pound of gold will buy 3957 bushels of corn or 8022 gallons of gas.



What was the ratio say in 2005? I'll bet you'd see quite a difference since gold has went on a tear over the last 4-5 years.
 
todays update from my money traders

Swiss stocks advanced for a third day as gains at some companies offset losses at others. The rate London-based banks say they can borrow at in Swiss francs for three months, the libor, was unchanged at 0.005 percent for a second day. The franc, seen as a haven during global turmoil, surged to a record high of 1.03 against the euro last month as European governments struggled to contain the region’s debt crisis. SNB set the franc’s ceiling saying it would use “unlimited” quantities of cash to cap the increase. The franc fell by a record after the SNB announcement and traded yesterday at about 1.208 francs to the euro. The U.S. dollar is up against the Swiss franc, trading close to a three-and-a-half month high.

Expect a downward pressure against the Franc.



Mid Market Overnight Range: .8577 - .8652

U.S. stock futures were little changed before President Barack Obama and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke speak on the economy. The U.S. trade deficit probably shrank in July as exports increased for the first time in three months, some economists are saying; a gap of $51 billion is projected. The U.S. economy is meant to grow 1.1 percent in the third quarter and 0.4 percent in the fourth, instead of the significantly higher figures predicted in May. The dollar climbed versus many of its major peers today. Obama will address Congress today on a $300 billion plan that includes tax cuts, infrastructure spending and direct aid to state and local governments. Bernanke will discuss the U.S. economic outlook.

Expect an upward pressure against the Greenback.




Euro



European stocks tumbled and snapped their four-day rally after data showed U.S. employment growth ground to a halt in August, rekindling fears that the world's largest economy is slipping into recession. German government bonds rose ahead of a news conference at which the ECB is expected to indicate a halt to the interest-rate rise cycle to help boost the struggling economy. The ECB left its main refinancing rate on hold at 1.5 percent after raising it twice in the last five months. Greek two-year note yields climbed to a record for a fifth day. The euro fell as investors struck a cautious tone with ECB policymakers seen likely to change tack and flag a pause in the recent monetary tightening cycle.

Expect a downward pressure against the Euro.

Canadian Dollar




Gold gained after a two- day slump attracted physical purchases and spurred investors to buy as a protection of wealth. Crude futures declined as Libyan officials discussed prospects for resuming production. The Bank of Canada kept its main interest rate unchanged for an eighth meeting and said there is a “diminished” need for an increase as Europe’s fiscal crisis and a slow U.S. rebound hobble the global recovery. Canadian bonds dropped, pushing the yield on the 10-year note up three points to 2.27 percent. Canada’s dollar gained the most in three weeks after the announcement. Canadian equities gained on speculation President Obama’s plan to pump $300 billion into the economy will bolster growth.

Expect an upward pressure against the Loonie.



Mid Market Overnight Range: .9826 - .9865
 
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