Don't bother and im not even being smug. Its worthless, the rocks are not covered, the hills are all slid out and where mother nature actually dumped 2-3ft of snow up there, its nothing but sugar from the top 6" down the the ground. I took Middle Fork up today and was very disappointed. You can tell somethings up when your ice scratchers can't keep your sled cool even after your on the trail. Just FYI for those of you interested. I can't believe it sucks as bad as it does, i don't think it will even build a base this year.