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Thoughts and prayers go out

So sad & tragic.
You are correct that the sick bastard lefties are going to use this as propaganda for more restrictive gun control.
They are sick!
 
Speaking of sick bastards the biggest one on the right Alex Jones is talking up a storm this was all staged up by the left and their ISIS connections because they knew that all the media would be in Nevada covering the release of another killer OJ from prison. Not sure how that guy sleeps at night or that people actually follow him but they do Speaks volumes of the state Americans is in.
 
So sad & tragic.
You are correct that the sick bastard lefties are going to use this as propaganda for more restrictive gun control.
They are sick!

Good hell man, and you have the gall to complain about "lefties" politicizing tragedy?
 
Good hell man, and you have the gall to complain about "lefties" politicizing tragedy?

Cmon man, go easy, I mean Alex jones and the far right media told em that Isis caused this, of course he believed that too. The evil lefties are comin for your rights to own a machine gun and a silencer, gotta stop em right away.

Imagine how many more would be dead if the current legislation to allow it to be easier to get a silencer had passed and this nut bar had one? But because of "Muy raights " the next guy probably will. No one wants to take away guns, but a little common sense would be nice. It's amazing this clown only killed 59 and not 599.

This is gonna get politicized 6 ways to Sunday, but I'm doubtful common sense will prevail
 
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Another upcoming vote on a gun related item in the House or Senate and another shooting.

This is becoming so predictable now its sad.


If they table the vote on the Sportsman Bill at this time (which I would guess they probably will) just keep an eye open when it gets close to vote again.
 
Cmon man, go easy, I mean Alex jones and the far right media told em that Isis caused this, of course he believed that too. The evil lefties are comin for your rights to own a machine gun and a silencer, gotta stop em right away.

Imagine how many more would be dead if the current legislation to allow it to be easier to get a silencer had passed and this nut bar had one? But because of "Muy raights " the next guy probably will. No one wants to take away guns, but a little common sense would be nice. It's amazing this clown only killed 59 and not 599.

This is gonna get politicized 6 ways to Sunday, but I'm doubtful common sense will prevail

Hillary, is that you?
 
I'm just as sick of hearing "religious zealot righties" as I am "Sick bastard lefties".

The EXTREME views are what is ruining our country... and I put those that follow or fan the flames of these extreme views as being the ones responsible for the detrimental effects on our country.

Sorry.... being a Democrat or Republicans does not make a point of view invalid...being a closed minded slave to memes on social media and inflammatory comments from extremists does.



It is a SAD day in the USA following this horrific domestic Terrorist act at the HWY 91 Country Music festival in Vegas... HORRIFIC !!




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Media blames gun owners, and wants to punish them. I blame the media, its a no brainer why these things happen more now than they did 30 years ago, and I can promise ya, its not semi auto weapons and silencers.
 
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The EXTREME views are what is ruining our country... and I put those that follow or fan the flames of these extreme views as being the ones responsible for the detrimental effects on our country.

Sorry.... being a Democrat or Republicans does not make a point of view invalid...being a closed minded slave to memes on social media and inflammatory comments from extremists does.



It is a SAD day in the USA following this horrific domestic Terrorist act at the HWY 91 Country Music festival in Vegas... HORRIFIC !!




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EXACTLY!!!!
 
Take away the politicians' pens...

My wife read this to me, not sure where she read it, but I agree.

"Taking pens away from politicians will save more lives than taking guns away from gun owners."

Anytime you allow the police force or military to have different, better, more advanced weapons than you allow the citizenry, you set up an opportunity for oppression by the state.

What happened in Vegas was a tragedy. What happens when governments wield all power is also a tragedy.

You'll hear talk of "nuclear deterrent" in reference to keeping dangerous regimes at bay. An armed citizenry is the deterrent to government oppression.
 
A nice quote that has gone viral already.

By Brian Murtagh, ret. Navy
Inspired by William Hamby

'I want any young men who buy a gun to be treated like young women who seek an abortion,' the quote reads.
'Think about it: a mandatory 48-hours waiting period, written permission from a parent or a judge, a note from a doctor proving that he understands what he is about to do, time spent watching a video on individual and mass murders, traveling hundreds of miles at his own expense to the nearest gun shop, and walking through protesters holding photos of loved ones killed by guns, protesters who call him a murderer.'








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My wife read this to me, not sure where she read it, but I agree.

"Taking pens away from politicians will save more lives than taking guns away from gun owners."

Anytime you allow the police force or military to have different, better, more advanced weapons than you allow the citizenry, you set up an opportunity for oppression by the state.

What happened in Vegas was a tragedy. What happens when governments wield all power is also a tragedy.

You'll hear talk of "nuclear deterrent" in reference to keeping dangerous regimes at bay. An armed citizenry is the deterrent to government oppression.


That right there IS the reason that we have the right to bear arms.
 
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Funny thing is I changed my opinion on this a few years ago after the left backlash to the Sandy Hook elementary school shooting. I used to think, why on earth would anyone need an AR-15. I do think there should be some logical ethical approaches to things, but a part of me woke up to the fact that our police & military forces, under the control of the government, have the very weapons & more that they were wanting to outlaw the citizenry from having.

I'm not sure what the right answer is, but restricting law abiding citizens from owning even a lot of weapons goes against the bill of rights.

"The right to keep & bear arms.... SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED." Seems pretty cut & dry. And it keeps it as "We the People," not "We the Government."
 
I'm not a huge "gun guy" but I have about 10 guns, including 1 AR-15, and a permit to carry. I have no problem with slightly tighter restrictions to purchase firearms, I believe I read this guy bought like 19 ARs this year alone. To me, that just seems unnecessary and screams "red flag." There is no reason for 1 man to have 19 AR-15s. I've also shot an AR with a bump stock, while there is no reason for them to be legal, it actually may have been beneficial here, he probably would have done more damage without the bump stock, they make the gun tough to control. What a piece of ****.
 
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