Thinking of crossing over...

[BIGROB]

Ok I am a long time two stroker and am thinking of making the jump to a couple more strokes. What is the way to go here. I am primarily a boondocker running the trees and creek bottoms, looking for nimble and quick power. I am getting the impression that if you don't have it boosted you are just an idiot, which I am okay with just wanted some opinions so I started with the right platform. Oh and if you guys would disclose some REAL numbers on how much these things weigh that would be great.

Thanks

 

[FriscoProx]

After 4 years on a 800 Poo mod I made the switch to an '08 Nytro. Being that its 100lbs heavier and 40hp less than the Poo, I was in a really big hurry to turbo it until I got some seat time on it. This thing carves effortlessly in the pow. Its really beyond words how smooth it is.

Plus, like I've already said in a few other posts, I'll have this sled for a few years and its gonna be a great platform for a turbo and some light weight add ons. And at elevation, these turbo's destroy the BB2s and are way more reliable.

Xtreme Performance which I consider very reliable, weighed the stock Nytro MTX 585 wet-no gas, and 630 full.

 

[Mountaintech]

I wouldn't be too hung up on the weight issue. Ride one and then decide.

 

[Mcx Nytro]

I wouldn't be too hung up on the weight issue. Ride one and then decide.

What he said you won't believe how light it feels, this has converted 4 guys I ride with, after spending 20min on mine stock!!!

 

[Powder Nomad]

Lightened Apex/RX?

Be careful... once you taste the dark side, might not go back! I can say that since I used to have a few Pol 2 strokes (700 twin, 800 triple/triple) before jumping ship.

Everyone I know is touting the Nytro, and sounds like it's well deserved (haven't even sat on one yet myself), but I would throw something else out there as an option. A lightened up Apex or RX1 is a very formidable sled as well, and doesn't have to be boosted. i.e. the mods below would knock the dry weight on an apex down from it's 597 to under 540. Still a little heavier than most 2 strokes, but as others have said, you really don't feel it. Yeah, it costs a bit, but if you can pick up an apex for $6500 and throw $2500 into it to lighten it up, you get a very reliable sled which will last a long time, and surprise the bejesus out of you as far as how 'boondockable' it really is.

Also, again have never ridden one so I'm just flat-guessing, but I would think that a Nytro would have a very difficult time keeping up with a lightened up Apex.

mod cost weight savings
-------- ------ --------------
exhaust $500 15 pounds (Excell, or make your own for less $)
seat $500 11 pounds
skid $1500 30 pounds
battery $75 5 pounds

Nomad

btw, I have an 03 RX1 mountain which I have knocked about 90 pounds off of, and am very happy with how it floats/climbs, very nimble and reacts very quickly in tight spots.

 

[Mcx Nytro]

Having riden them both a lightened rx-1 and apex the chassie of the nytro handles ssssoooo much easier I would dump the stock track folds over in no time and get some decent clutching and you would be right with the xps without stoping ever 100 miles or so for belt replacement...lol

 

[BIGROB]

These are starting to sound pretty good. I know that a friend had an RX1 when they first came out and if it got rolled over or turned on it's side for any amount of time it was a bit troublesome to get fired up again. Is this still an issue or has it been figured out? I know he missed alot of riding time on a few occasions because of this.

 

[colorado yamaha]

BR - I have an '03 RX-1 Mtn and just dumped it last weekend, it flooded and took a little crank'n to fire her up. I've put every light weight part on mine and it's 675 ready to ride - no real weight savings there IMO (at least not worth the $ it took to get there).

If your a bigger guy 200+, throwing an Apex Mtn around is effortless ... I know everyone loves the Nytro but I would be all over an Apex. Stock they are really good [track is fair], better ergo's, gauge, etc. and you don't need to lighten anything up if you plan to add Boost!

 

[Thumper]

I don't have any fantasies about hi-marking but, even stock I can boon dock anywhere my sons go on their M7's. As far as acceleration once it was broke in it had all kinds of bottom end and mid range. Top end is a little lacking compared to my old RX-1 which was stock as well. I love it and I spend probably 75% of my time B/Docking.

 

[RMG]

Apexes are fuel injected. I roll mine now and then (sometimes puposely to get unstuck) and it always fires up quick. When upside down it shuts itself off and you have to turn key to off position before starting it. I think it has to reset.

 

[LNCHPD]

I have a stock apex mtn and have ridden a stock and a turboed nytro and my take on this is the nytro feels lighter, easier to handle but less power, except the boosted one, that was impressive. One thing is in deep powder the apex feels as light as a feather and so does the nytro. They are both awesome to ride but when the snow is packed the apex feels heavy and the nytro not so much. My 2 cents.