There has to be a line somewhere right?

[ruffryder]

I wish it were like the rest of the world. If I slam while skateboarding on your property, I bleed, I dont sue.

The problem that arises, as shown in the fox news link, is that when an extreme accident occurs that results in very expensive life-time care. There own insurance is not able to cover those costs, therefore sometimes the only option is to sue.

People aren't worried that "you" will sue, they are worried the people that will be taking care of you the rest of your life will sue.

 

[smokenjay]

There own insurance is not able to cover those costs, therefore sometimes the only option is to sue.

People aren't worried that "you" will sue, they are worried the people that will be taking care of you the rest of your life will sue.

The people I speak of always say it that way. "You will sue us" If I was hurt on thier property, I could go after "pain and suffering" money. The docs, therapy, etc that provided my care should be able to collect from my health insurance carrier.

I do agree with the concern these people have does not stop with me, but with anyone who nursed me back to health. I have a story regarding this.


In November of 2006, I was skateboarding one of my favorite spots, a drainage ditch on a city owned golf course. This ditch has a PVC pipe at the bottom that acts as a drain. About 30 minutes into the session, I took a full speed header into the bottom of the ditch. My head hit the PVC pipe then the concrete. The PVC pipe nearly cut off my left ear. I also had a nice concussion and a bunch of road rash. My friends called an ambulance, and off to the hospital I went. I required four hours of stitching from a plastic surgeon to reattach my ear. Surprisingly, my ear looks normal now. I did have the pleasure of looking like a mutant for a few weeks.

Needless to say, my care went way past my $5000 deductable. My insurance co was on the hook for $10000+. They mailed me a questionaire regarding the details of the accident. They wanted a description of what happened, where and when. I filled it out. Well, all except the where part. I was intentionally vague on this one. I knew thier goal was to get the property owner on the hook so they could recover some of thier cost. Had I been more clear on this, I believe they would have gotton the property owner involved. Then guess what? The ditch gets fenced or destroyed. Fortunately, the owner wasnt involved and I still skate that ditch all the time.

The point of the story is this: I chose not to sue and I believe that I prevented others from suing. I was the pivital player in the case. It came down to me not wanting a lawsuit. Could I have sued to get my $5000 deductable back? I dont know, but I didnt even find out. I know skateboarding is dangerous. I accepted the risk, delt with the consequences and no one got sued.

 

[ruffryder]

The people I speak of always say it that way. "You will sue us" If I was hurt on thier property, I could go after "pain and suffering" money. The docs, therapy, etc that provided my care should be able to collect from my health insurance carrier.

I do agree with the concern these people have does not stop with me, but with anyone who nursed me back to health. I have a story regarding this.


In November of 2006, I was skateboarding one of my favorite spots, a drainage ditch on a city owned golf course. This ditch has a PVC pipe at the bottom that acts as a drain. About 30 minutes into the session, I took a full speed header into the bottom of the ditch. My head hit the PVC pipe then the concrete. The PVC pipe nearly cut off my left ear. I also had a nice concussion and a bunch of road rash. My friends called an ambulance, and off to the hospital I went. I required four hours of stitching from a plastic surgeon to reattach my ear. Surprisingly, my ear looks normal now. I did have the pleasure of looking like a mutant for a few weeks.

Needless to say, my care went way past my $5000 deductable. My insurance co was on the hook for $10000+. They mailed me a questionaire regarding the details of the accident. They wanted a description of what happened, where and when. I filled it out. Well, all except the where part. I was intentionally vague on this one. I knew thier goal was to get the property owner on the hook so they could recover some of thier cost. Had I been more clear on this, I believe they would have gotton the property owner involved. Then guess what? The ditch gets fenced or destroyed. Fortunately, the owner wasnt involved and I still skate that ditch all the time.

The point of the story is this: I chose not to sue and I believe that I prevented others from suing. I was the pivital player in the case. It came down to me not wanting a lawsuit. Could I have sued to get my $5000 deductable back? I dont know, but I didnt even find out. I know skateboarding is dangerous. I accepted the risk, delt with the consequences and no one got sued.

Good example, but that is not the one they are worried about. They are worried about the accident that will use up all of your insurance, bankrupt your family, and leave your family looking for a means of survival, which is where the suing comes from.

 

[smokenjay]

The point of my story was that the property owners are worried about ME, not docs. My case began and ended with me. I had the means to eat the $5000 (although it was very unpleasant), and the insurance to cover the rest. If it would have happened to someone else, they may have not had insurance or another way to pay thier doc bills. Even those people arent forced to drag the property owner into it. The hospital doesnt know where the accident occured. They wont know it when they are trying to collect from the uninsured patient. To sue or not to sue is a choice. Sadly, many people will choose to make someone else pay for thier mistake. I just wish they didnt have the choice.

 

[shortstop20]

The problem that arises, as shown in the fox news link, is that when an extreme accident occurs that results in very expensive life-time care. There own insurance is not able to cover those costs, therefore sometimes the only option is to sue.

I don't agree with that one bit. Just because there was an unfortunate accident does not mean they suddenly have a right to TAKE money from a company that has earned their money fair and square. I mean this in the nicest way possible, I'm sure somebody will still get mad though....if the bills are that high that you cannot pay the bills and there is no assistance you can get to help pay the bills(except for sueing) then you have to make a decision, do you keep paying the bills or do you let your son go? I know it's nothing somebody likes to think about and it would be an unbearable decision. I feel for the parents but they still have no reason to sue.

The point of the story is this: I chose not to sue and I believe that I prevented others from suing. I was the pivital player in the case. It came down to me not wanting a lawsuit. Could I have sued to get my $5000 deductable back? I dont know, but I didnt even find out. I know skateboarding is dangerous. I accepted the risk, delt with the consequences and no one got sued.

I agree completely and I would go about the situation the same way.

To sue or not to sue is a choice. Sadly, many people will choose to make someone else pay for thier mistake. I just wish they didnt have the choice.

Here's some beers for ya!

 

[HIGHMARK]

I guess his glove didn't come with instructions on how to use it to catch a ball that is coming at you. They better sue that company too.

 

[MARCUSO]

I think it is luducrous to sue a bat company or the store they bought it from.
Next thing they will put stickers on the bat saying that swinging the bat may cause headache if in contact with it while in motion.

Perhaps they have to make it mandatory to have at least one certified first aid on each team, to keep blood pumping to his brain.... I think that would be more realistic.

 

[MARCUSO]

that is crap if the boy wasn't such a puss it would have knocked the wind out of him and 20 minute later he would be playing. I only hope they toss this out of court.

Now this is the stupidest post I have ever read by far on here.

I hope they castrated you before you were able to breed/

 

[AkHockey10]

that is horrible what the family/friends and the boy are going through!

Put yourself in the PARENTS shoes? that is YOUR child who is disabled, what would you do?

If it was my child, i would not sue anyone (well, i say that atleast), accidents happen.

When you go to sign your kid up for sports, on one of the sheets that you need to sign does it say something like "this sport can cause serious injuries or even death, by signing the line below I have clearly read and understand these situations". ??? I know, it does because I have signed them!

this is such a sue happy nation.. its sad.

 

[SnowSnob]

It is funny, everyone blames the lawyers for all the crappy lawsuits, but yet when something happens to them, they still want to sue somebody. The lawyers are providing a service. They will pretty much do what you want as long as it is legal. The problem lies in the people of this country, more than the lawyers. It just seems easier to single them out instead of taking personal responsibility. I think I should sue someone over this.....

I totally agree with you but I also agree with everyone blaming the lawyers, it takes 2 to tango. The parents are in the wrong for trying to make money off of this. I can understand wanting help with all the medical bills but if your insurance is going to cover it then you shouldn't exploit it.
I'm sure some lawyer talked them into it but they could have some morals and say NO. They really need to come out with a law that stops all this damn sueing, it's screwing all of us.

 

[ruffryder]

If it was my child, i would not sue anyone (well, i say that atleast), accidents happen. .

So what would you do if the accident was bad enough that your insurance wouldn't cover it all?

I wonder if part of the problem is that insurance companies will not provide coverage, saying responsibility lies with a different party than them? I don't know much about that side of the insurance game.

 

[Slick]

Fully in agreement with the absurdity of this claim, and the sue for everything mentality this world has turned into.
But the lawyers can only get what the dip**** bleeding heart judges are allowing. They're gonna keep on bringing these silly dumb-*** claims in with a real expectation for compensation until the courts stand up and tell people that "yes there are consequences for all your actions ", so you chose to be involved, so accept the results.
Its gotta start with the judges first, in my opinion.

 

[ruffryder]

Fully in agreement with the absurdity of this claim, and the sue for everything mentality this world has turned into.
But the lawyers can only get what the dip**** bleeding heart judges are allowing. They're gonna keep on bringing these silly dumb-*** claims in with a real expectation for compensation until the courts stand up and tell people that "yes there are consequences for all your actions ", so you chose to be involved, so accept the results.
Its gotta start with the judges first, in my opinion.

So what about cases were there is a jury?

 

[XC700116]

Injuries are a part of sports. Just last night the same thing happened to a San Diego Padres Pitcher and it broke his nose.

I can gaurantee that there were half a dozen lawyers pounding on the parents door the minute the news broke the story. So it is just as much the ambulance chasing lawyers as the Parents but it does take 2 to tango.

Also most health insurance policies do have a lifetime maximum and most times it's 1 or 2 million. This boy's costs over his lifetime will most likely go past that. This is one case where there is no good way to win, but I would rather society shoulder that debt than the countless illeagal immagrants visiting an ER for a cold or VD or anything we would just go to the regular doc for because the ER's cannot refuse them and Once they leave the hospital has no way to recoupe the costs.

 

[Anti-Hero]

Now this is the stupidest post I have ever read by far on here.

I hope they castrated you before you were able to breed/

You must have played tee ball or softball as a kid. In Ice hockey the coach would tell you to skate it off, that really meant suck it up.

 

[AkHockey10]

So what would you do if the accident was bad enough that your insurance wouldn't cover it all?

I wonder if part of the problem is that insurance companies will not provide coverage, saying responsibility lies with a different party than them? I don't know much about that side of the insurance game.

Well, that would be a different story! like, i said "I say i wouldn't sue anyone" but, i dont know what i would do... probably sell my sleds, truck, house whatever it takes to pay it off.... who knows..

 

[AkHockey10]

You must have played tee ball or softball as a kid. In Ice hockey the coach would tell you to skate it off, that really meant suck it up.

couple years ago (more like three, i think) in Provo a hockey player about 15 yrs old got hit in the chest by puck from a slap shot and died. Does that mean hes a wuss? No.

and yes he had the correct pads.

Chest injuries are something not to take lightly.

 

[Anti-Hero]

did his folks sue CCM or Koho?

 

[Slick]

So what about cases were there is a jury?

The judges decide when theres gonna be a trial, and if one is warranted, not the jury. Thinking like that is what got us to the dog and pony shows that the skilled lawyers put forth and why they spend such gobs of money looking for their return on investment.
Please don't suggest that the majority of them are doing it for the good of the client, unless of course you're in that industry. I wouldn't believe it for a second, but I'd understand your viewpoint a bit better.

 

[AkHockey10]

did his folks sue CCM or Koho?

probably both, and plus which ever brand of stick the kid was using who shot the puck and probably the Puck makers also.



sad deal.