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The trucking industry.....How's it affecting the owners?

H2SNOW said:
triple sevens ...yup ....used to run them for years ....loaded them with 994 Cat loaders......building the Alaska Hiway ..:beer;:beer;:beer;
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now thats telling your age buddy,

Yea fuel prices suck, but atleast were havin fun!

I hate surcharges cause as you have said they range A LOT, jst give me a flat rate surcharge in and Im a happy camper. Cheers n beers buddies
 
H2SNOW said:
just for clarification ...them aren;t triple 7s ......look more like 773s to me .....nobody would move a triple with the box intact .......course I don't knpw wtf I"m talkin bout;)
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just 777's is all. about 210,000lbs total gross and 14' wide, oh and thats without wheels&tires!

H2, did you run a 994 or just the Rock Trucks.
 
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H2SNOW said:
hey prick face ...if you are in the passin lane and aint holdin yer own ....get the hell back to the gimp lane cuz I'm comin thru and thats all there is to that :D:beer;:beer;:beer;:beer;
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HAHAHA, that's funny stuff!!!!!!! Hey justadude, THINK before you open your trap!!! It's trucks that supply EVERYTHING to any part of North America. If not for them your dinner plate would be pretty empty.

And yea H2 my wife even says I have a bad obsession with rigs.:D But......I still consider myself "normal", hehehehe
 
Milehigh, surcharges vary from shipper to shipper. I have one customer who pays $1.20 p/mile + a 54% surcharge, where as other customers pay $1.80-$2.00 p/ mile and a 6-10% surcharge, and so on, and so on. That is why I consider surcharges a joke, IMO.
 
Color?

You're right Mikey, it's not really PINK. More of a goldish sandstone with a light hue of a light red.:D

Glad to see you made it through another week, left you a message last week. I'll try you later today.
 
bullfrog123 said:
Milehigh, surcharges vary from shipper to shipper. I have one customer who pays $1.20 p/mile + a 54% surcharge, where as other customers pay $1.80-$2.00 p/ mile and a 6-10% surcharge, and so on, and so on. That is why I consider surcharges a joke, IMO.
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Interesting, I always thought this surcharge was set by the Government, much like the IRS reiumbursment rate.
 
Good to Go said:
You got me on this one buddy... Why would the government set the surcharge in private business?
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I never said that was fact, I just said that is what I thought. :face-icon-small-win

It is also not set in stone, but a reccomendation, LIKE the IRS mileage reimbursment rate. Employers do not HAVE to pay this but use it as a base. Some pay more, others pay less.
 
Try the gravel biz it's even worse no surcharge just by the hour and things are stupid slow right now so lots of guys doing the cutthrought thing right now. Get about 4.2 MPG with the ISX pulling the steep hills. C15 does a little better pulling 105 gross at about 5.1 still it's killer with the steep grades. Lots and lots of guys going under right now very scary. Rumor is Knife river told there drivers there season was going to end in early Sept and even right now they are not getting over 30hrs if that and they are huge.

I'm just gald I can switch back and forth when things get slow from the 980 loader D6 and even plumbing in the winter so that helps.



Spud those look like the red Mickweeden trucks I have seen????
 
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MKWeeden is right JW!

things are really slow right now in a sense of what its been the past 5-8 years.
 
Fuel surcharge

bullfrog123 said:
OK, we are getting bombarded by the election stuff here, right? Let's change gears for a moment.
I am a trucking/freight broker and my bottom line is suffering like all others out there, as there is not enough money to pay to the carrier or me.

Just wondering what YOU carriers are doing to offset fuel, tires, insurance, maintenance, etc.

Fuel surcharges for the most part are a joke, IMO. The bottom line is dollar per mile. Surcharges average 12-54%, across the board, WTF!!!

I for one take care of my carriers BEFORE me, but holy he!!, why in the Fu** can't shippers and recievers realize this when they set the rates?

I know the whole Swift, Central Ref, JB Hunt, May Tr, Cr England, etc, azzhats control the "CHEAP" market, but come on.:mad: I am sick and tired of competing with these folks.

Rant over.

J&R Brokerage llc.
1-208-652-7997
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Our surcharge is set by us (the trucking company) not the customer. I'm sure a lot of shippers want to set the surcharge but if it doesn't work for the trucker you can't do it. Ours is based on the national average. We get an extra fee per mile based on the average. By doing it by the mile you don't get shafted on the shorter hauls but you don't get the big one on the big money loads. If we can't make money at it we don't do it. Our loads pay round trip so if you can find a little something to come home with it's all gravy. We are having fun and making money.
 
Cek, I hear ya, but as a broker only I'm stuck with workin the shipper/reciever rates and such. It makes my job harder when said shipper/recievers refuse to realize what it ACTUALLY costs to ship freight. As in they don't understand fuel milage of big rigs, tire cost, repairs, brakes, diffs, etc. etc. And how parts and labor and fuel change on a daily basis.
All they are worried about is selling their product and making a profit without any thought of how much it costs to get it to market. Look at the produce market, and how much the farmer gets for what they do vs. what the sheds do. Quite the price swing.
 
I will take this to the bank and tell ya that aint no triple 7 .....period ....a triple 7 is fricken way big !!!!....dang it !!! all my pics are real not digi ...soo i can't give something to compare with but I will tell you this ...the boxes come in two parts .................any questions
 
bullfrog123 said:
Cek, I hear ya, but as a broker only I'm stuck with workin the shipper/reciever rates and such. It makes my job harder when said shipper/recievers refuse to realize what it ACTUALLY costs to ship freight. As in they don't understand fuel milage of big rigs, tire cost, repairs, brakes, diffs, etc. etc. And how parts and labor and fuel change on a daily basis.
All they are worried about is selling their product and making a profit without any thought of how much it costs to get it to market. Look at the produce market, and how much the farmer gets for what they do vs. what the sheds do. Quite the price swing.
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my rate is set on a sliding scale ./.......the fuel goes up then soo does my surcharge...pretty simple ..aint hauling for free:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
bullfrog123 said:
Cek, I hear ya, but as a broker only I'm stuck with workin the shipper/reciever rates and such. It makes my job harder when said shipper/recievers refuse to realize what it ACTUALLY costs to ship freight. As in they don't understand fuel milage of big rigs, tire cost, repairs, brakes, diffs, etc. etc. And how parts and labor and fuel change on a daily basis.
All they are worried about is selling their product and making a profit without any thought of how much it costs to get it to market. Look at the produce market, and how much the farmer gets for what they do vs. what the sheds do. Quite the price swing.
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I understand what you are saying. I have a brokerage too. I think the hardest thing is finding quality customers. If I cant make decent money on it I will use it as fill in but I don't spend much time on it. Spend that time working on getting better cutomers. I generally use the brokerage to expand my trucking company. As I find consistant loads I will add a truck of my own. My business is different though, we only do import/export containers. So we only go to Seattle, Tacoma and Portland ports. We're looking at expanding into Califonia but it doesn't look like a very business friendly state, especially trucking.
 
I understand where the carriers are coming from, Heck when the wife and I opened this business up 11 yrs ago, all we had to do was post, or state a rate and the load was covered, no surcharge, no price gouging, no BS. Now days we are now getting "BIDS" from carriers and letting the shippers/recievers authorize it. It's just funny how one truck needs $4.00 p/mile to run and the next call can run the same load for $2.00. I won't name names but there are carriers that are taking advantage of the current fuel issues, and think they are more important than the next truck in line.

Getting to be a pretty cut-throat bussiness.
 
I'm am completely ignorant about the trucking industry, so hopefully you could help with my question. Why don't truckers just charge more to cover they're costs (fuel,maintanence, tires, labor). If a shipper doesn't want to buck up and pay what it costs to ship his stuff, let it sit on the loading dock. Is the trucking industry so cutthroat that people are willing to take losses just to drive a truck? I wouldn't do any job if the balance sheet didn't tip to my advantage!
 
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