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The "leaders" responsibility

bobback

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What is their job? First of all, names have been changed to protect the innocent. A week ago there were 5 of us riding; Mike was leading, Karla was second, my wife (who is new to riding) third, Rich, then me. Rich and Karla are married. I seem to have an issue w/ my sled, so I stop and shortly Rich circles back to make sure i'm ok. It takes us about 15/20 minutes, then we take off again, as we are heading out and about 6 miles from the parking lot.

On the way out, we don't catch up to anyone, and i'm wondering if we somehow missed them, which is very unlikely. We get to the parking lot, and the leader is there along w/ Karla, but my wife is not there, so I"m very concerned at this point. So I say to the leader, where is my wife? He says I thought she was with you...then he says I just gunned it and headed out.

So I'm heading to get Rich so we can head back up and look for my wife, and luckily my wife shows up via a different exit. So if we would have headed back up to look for her, we would have missed her. She said she stopped for Rich and I, waited about 15 minutes, then took off. She came down the mountain by herself! Needless to say not a happy camper.

My opinion is the leader should have periodically stopped to make sure that everyone was behind him, especially since there was an inexperienced rider.

What do you think?
 
What is their job? First of all, names have been changed to protect the innocent. A week ago there were 5 of us riding; Mike was leading, Karla was second, my wife (who is new to riding) third, Rich, then me. Rich and Karla are married. I seem to have an issue w/ my sled, so I stop and shortly Rich circles back to make sure i'm ok. It takes us about 15/20 minutes, then we take off again, as we are heading out and about 6 miles from the parking lot.

On the way out, we don't catch up to anyone, and i'm wondering if we somehow missed them, which is very unlikely. We get to the parking lot, and the leader is there along w/ Karla, but my wife is not there, so I"m very concerned at this point. So I say to the leader, where is my wife? He says I thought she was with you...then he says I just gunned it and headed out.

So I'm heading to get Rich so we can head back up and look for my wife, and luckily my wife shows up via a different exit. So if we would have headed back up to look for her, we would have missed her. She said she stopped for Rich and I, waited about 15 minutes, then took off. She came down the mountain by herself! Needless to say not a happy camper.

My opinion is the leader should have periodically stopped to make sure that everyone was behind him, especially since there was an inexperienced rider.

What do you think?

Amen, to that brother...experienced or not.
 
For the most part when riding in a group, each guy keeps tabs on the guy behind you. One guy gets stuck/stopped/or whatever, chain reaction, everyone stops. I've gotten too far ahead and not seen the rest of the group. Stopped, waited, listened, then turned around and headed back the half mile or whatever that i decided to start snow crossin the whooped out trail and not paid attention.
 
Absolutely. If you are leading, then you are in charge of the pack and responsible for keeping everyone together. I also believe that every rider should watch out for the rider behind them. If they would, nobody would get to far apart. It's a safety issue.
 
Not sure on the "couples" riding thing, but when I'm in a group, I make myself responsible for the next person behind me. A quick peek back every couple minutes is all that is needed.
 
:p here is the way I do it and if anyone in the group doesnt like it I tell them I am leading and if they dont like it to take off on there own...........I have led groups for many years, and have never lost any one yet....I set my pace for the slowest rider in the bunch and thats as fast as I go.............sure takes a little longer,but nothing kills a newby like having a bunch of go fasts take off and leave them to guess where we are.....and yes the rule of looking back and checking on the rider behind is also in effect............if we have some fast riders in with us we set up meeting places along the ride for all of us to meet........has worked good for me for many years......38 or so
 
Quakies are my ruin!

I have a habit of riding off into the
quakey tree's , dosent matter if I'm leading, in the middle or in the tail spot.:rolleyes:


its a good thing we all carry rino's..........ca-caw ......ca-caw.....Channel 5:5 :cool:


peace out,

johnny



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The rule is that you keep an eye on the guy (or gal) behind you. If you don't see them, you go back for them. If in a play area, we also make sure that we all leave to the next area together. It's not just the leaders responsibility, it's everybodies.

We had newbs in the group yesterday and it was definitely not as cohesive as our normal group. It took alot more work to move from one area to the next because of the different riding abilities and that needs to be remembered by all.
 
I have a habit of riding off into the
quakey tree's , dosent matter if I'm leading, in the middle or in the tail spot.:rolleyes:


its a good thing we all carry rino's..........ca-caw ......ca-caw.....Channel 5:5 :cool:


peace out,

johnny



.


Heres to you johnny!! :beer;:beer;:beer;
 
That would be my last ride with that "leader" wether he is leading or not. What other bad choices will he make in a day if he can mess up something that basic??? Not the kind of guys I choose to ride with. Now the other thing to be concerned with, rassure your newby wife that this in not nnormal or acceptable behavior and dont let it deter her from riding again. He freaked is she? I know it would be enough that alot of women would not want to go again for awhile.
 
Leader should confirm head count at each intersection before leaving it, especially with . Lost riders should go to the last intersection where the gruop was all present.

This has worked for us riding with inexperienced riders for years. Saves a lot of confused riders in all directions looking for each other.

Good post. EW
 
How bout riding after the sun goes down or at night? Power off and there's no lights. Something to think about if you get stuck.
 
I can't tell you how many times over the years the group that I usually ride with has lost track of someone and then we spend sometimes hours looking for them. Luckily no one has ever ended up being hurt or seriously lost for any dangerous amount of time, but we now have a solution to it. A few years ago, my dad bought a bunch of those chatter box communicators. They mount on the helmet and you don't even know they're there most of the time, but they have made it so much nicer that when someone gets behind or gets stuck and left behind, they push a button and tell us. That was probably the best thing for snowmobiling that we in are group have done ever to make riding safer. Depending on the terrain they have really good range also. I've talked with my dad with one when we were 4 miles apart. It's the only way to keep track of a group, and you don't have to stop, take off the helmet, and empty the backpack when someone's lost to find a radio and then hope that the other person will here it.
 
That would be my last ride with that "leader" wether he is leading or not. What other bad choices will he make in a day if he can mess up something that basic??? Not the kind of guys I choose to ride with. Now the other thing to be concerned with, rassure your newby wife that this in not nnormal or acceptable behavior and dont let it deter her from riding again. He freaked is she? I know it would be enough that alot of women would not want to go again for awhile.

She was pretty upset that day, and I don't blame her. Was a long ride back in the truck w/ the leader, wasn't much said. She's fine now and I promised her that would never happen again!
 
She was pretty upset that day, and I don't blame her. Was a long ride back in the truck w/ the leader, wasn't much said. She's fine now and I promised her that would never happen again!

Good to hear. Sounds like you've got a good woman. I love to ride with my bud's, but the rides with the wife are always the best.
 
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