Could it be that the Mountain Max is going to stage a return to the market place.....
The future for yamaha
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Could it be that the Mountain Max is going to stage a return to the market place.....
From what I heard (hearsay) Yamaha reps have asked what it'll take to get back in the mountain sled market, when dealers say, 2 stroke 800, Yami reps say, no way they're going back to 2 Strokes. I've been reading rumors about a new chassis for '20, not Cat, but a Yamaha built chassis. Seeing a cat 600 2T in a Yamaha branded sled tells me that they'll use the Cat 800 in their own chassis, instead of their engine in a Cat chassis like last time. When Cat needed an engine supplier and help developing their own engines, Yamaha helped and traded for chassis, now Yamaha needs a 2 stroke for their chassis and will trade for that this time? maybe there will be a cat version of the Yamaha Mountain max?
Whatever happens, I hope it's a good mountain sled like the old MM was, all my Yamaha dirtbikes, streetbikes, and sleds were awesome, such good engines
Whatever happens, I hope it's a good mountain sled like the old MM was, all my Yamaha dirtbikes, streetbikes, and sleds were awesome, such good engines
Yamaha is known as an engine builder first and foremost. For them to use a Cat engine in their chassis, would go against everything they have stood for.. but like you said, they are using a rebranded Cat Norseman in Europe as their own.. so who knows.
In other news......Larry the Cable guy is a new candidate for an off road spokesperson.
Yamaha are you reading. Build a lightweight 190 hp 2500 mile motor one year warranty. Don't worry about longevity fast lightweight power geter done.
Yamaha had 180 hp 500 cc motorcycles back in the early 1980s they have the technology
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Bacon
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180 hp 500? I must have missed that one. Maybe 80 hp 500.
A 500CC MotoGP roadrace 2 stroke bike, yes - a dirt bike, not happening.
Although, 180HP would've been low on power for those race bikes. I think they were pushing over 200.
They should make like a 2 stroke 4 stroke like those stihl weedeaters are...than corprate offace can still say its a 4 stroke... but its not...
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Bacon
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Ok. I'll give you that. But not like its production. I don't think I would want to rebuild the motor after every ride.
new yamaha patents
OK... here we go!!!yamaha patented 2 new chassis in december one shows three exhaust ports and the other frame has four ports!!!!also they patented a supercharger too, not a turbo a supercharger that runs off the crank!!!and yes both frames are made of Carbon fiber!!!These are facts just look for yourself on the U.S patent site!!!
OK... here we go!!!yamaha patented 2 new chassis in december one shows three exhaust ports and the other frame has four ports!!!!also they patented a supercharger too, not a turbo a supercharger that runs off the crank!!!and yes both frames are made of Carbon fiber!!!These are facts just look for yourself on the U.S patent site!!!
That's Cool, but still wish they would re-enter the 2 stroke market; Hope to ride with a friend who has a refurbished Mountain Max this week!
Preferred embodiment's of the present invention provide a snowmobile including a tunnel portion that is made of a carbon fiber-reinforced plastic material and is guaranteed to have a sufficient strength and a sufficient rigidity with no metal frame being provided. You may not see it for 2020 but it is in the works. US Patient
United States Patent Application 2016 0068228Kind CodeA1YASUDA; Atsushi ; et al.March 10, 2016
Reading that reminds of the newer dirtbike composite subframes, nothing game changing but should reduce weight some.
Its NOT going to happen.
Yamaha is committed to FOUR STROKE.
BUT
Make absolutely no mistake about it.
Yamaha DOES have the Technology and Manufacturing capability of producing a HIGH HORSEPOWER LOW WEIGHT Engine.
They just don't see the market share for sales in the Mountain Segment to justify the capitol investment. Its just a matter of Return on Investment to Corporate HQ.
I know but sometimes it's not all about the money it's called ego,balls,kick some xxx
I hear ya.
I was RIGHT THERE WITH YA for many long years with 5 of my Yamahas..
Yep in 2002 got a look at 800 twin Yamaha fuel injection at Cooke city. To bad they went to 4 stroke.
I just wish our market segment was growing enough to lure Yamaha into spending some REAL investment money
