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The Explorer!

Man, this thing rocks! I finally decided to pull the trigger and picked one up last week upon the recommendation of a friend. I had heard alot about them but until now hadnt gotten a chance to ride one or test it out. My buddy and I put the thing together over a 6 pack and had it out the next morning. I cant believe the places I've gone already, even in crappy snow conditions. I thought the sled season was just about over but im going places the sled guys wont even follow. Its a little tricky to get used to but I found that I just lean it like a dirtbike and trust itll hook up. Its a little sketchy on the big whoops, I think I might have to play with suspension, but for now im super happy with it. I also noticed I am getting some snow in the airbox, is this normal, what do you do to prevent this? And what about the lubing the chain, is it necessary?
 
sweet

great to hear of your great experience. I always lube the chain as soon as it is dried off of before every ride. explore away and spread the word take some vid and post. Later Les
 
where are you located/???

Its nice to be able to hook up with other single ski riders in the area. Tell us about yourself?

Tammy
 
good job stepping up,,,, you will see as you get time on it and learn the set up for you , and get it tuned in, you will see yourself going down the riugh trails tapped out with no worries. just a little hint on the rough trail, make sure your in the 3rd position, all the way back,,,, and have a good angle of attack and have the front ski about 1/2 way down, the angle of attack is very important, i suggest having someone sit on the bike, and you stand back and look at the track on the ground front and back and make sure the front is just a little higher. when your sure of this,,,take it for a ride,, and if the front feels heavy steering raise the ski up, if it feels too light lower it down, and you will find a "sweet spot" and then you could even mark it. and you will have a big smile, because its amazing how rider weight, can change this thing, that is why ad boivin made sure there were plenty of adjustment for the system. and when owners fine tune the explorers for themselves they rock. drawing close the end of the year, i cant tell you how many people came back to me and said wow, setup is key!!!
have fun, be safe, and if you need any advice ever feel free to give me a call

mike
 
cool, thanks for the info, I wasn't quite sure where to start. I read something about stiffer springs or maybe changing fork oil? but ill start with that. The instructions dont really give you that kind of information, so thanks again. And Im from invermere (B.C.) :) also, can you adjust the angle by threading/unthreading the black rods that connect to the footpegs, or do you have to do it at the track (with the three bolts on each side?)
 
cool, thanks for the info, I wasn't quite sure where to start. I read something about stiffer springs or maybe changing fork oil? but ill start with that. The instructions dont really give you that kind of information, so thanks again. And Im from invermere (B.C.) :) also, can you adjust the angle by threading/unthreading the black rods that connect to the footpegs, or do you have to do it at the track (with the three bolts on each side?)

Hey man,
Invermere BC hein ! I'll probably be riding for the last time this season in Revy on April 18th if you want to be in. Do you ride Golden often ? Haven't been there yet ! Lack of time this winter...

Would be great to hook up and ride ! You could try a Hawk and get a "truer" opinion on your Explorer kit then ;)
Thierry
 
I was also wondering about track attack angle setup. I thought about adjusting the support arms, but the manual says the frame they attach to much be level to the ground. This means the only way to adjust track attack angle is backing off the 3 nutz on each side, and doing it that way. They've made it fairly confusing. I'd like to be able to have the ski adjusted in for strength and to get the seat height more doable.
 
attack angle

you can adjust the black rods. the instructions say to keep main frame level but I have seen adjusted way up in the front. I does limit the suspension more though. One thing to keep in mind is when you adjust the side plate bolts (3 on each side) is to keep the drive wheel from pushing down tight to the track idler wheels. You can pinch the track down between the drive wheel and the idlers and cause alot of drag so pay attention to this adjustment.
 
Thanks for the info. Ya whats the difference between 3" and 2". At least I could lower the front as well making stop and start easier. I have to build some kind of bumpers to keep it from hammering the belly pan all day anyways.
 
Thinking back - when I first took it out it bogged mega on start-out like it was binding. It didn't roll when you pushed it in neutral either, but I thought it was because the track is new and doesn't like to change shape. The more I learn, the more inadequate I feel the given instructions are. As far as limiting the suspension travel, I'm actually thinking it might be better to cut it back and also add a bumper underneith out of truck mat rubber or something. I'd rather have no suspension in back than hammer my bike on every bump against the track cover thingy. Maybe with the explorer, it would be an idea to put in a heavier spring in back. The kit may fit your model differently however. Sure is fun though. I would never consider a 2 ski after riding with 1.
 
JB-
You're sounding a little more positive! :) I'd still like to see some pics of your setup for reference purposes. (i.e. peg height, track angle, fork rake, etc.)
 
If my parts orders ever come in and I can get the thing fixed and useable again, I'll take some pics. I would have already, but I've only ever had half an hours riding before it breaks. If I ever get to my destination and the thing is in one piece, I'll definately be takin some shots. The concept is as cool as hell, just have to refab the trouble areas and play with the adjustments. I'm sure I can make a decent kit from what I've been given to start with. It's just too bad that my knowledge of the trouble areas came after the breakdowns and disappointment. I'm still under an hour and a half in ride time (in 2 rides), so I haven't really got to test it or get used to it yet. I'll have more to say I'm sure down the road. :D

Yes Dobber, I am more positive. I still have to say for people shopping for the best snowbike kit should be looking at 2moto. If you buy an explorer for msrp $3200 CAD versus a 2moto radix for $6000, it seems like an easy choice. Once you have bought the explorer, probably your first worry is about fuel range. Most people seem to be running race bikes 450s etc., which don't have tank reserve. So if you look into the gas can holder bracket which in this case looks to be a cheap steel tubing powder coated black and costs msrp between $600-$650, you might be able to draw up something similar and have it fabbed at a local shop for a little less but nicer. They've also made the ski so that the carbide runners are extremely agressive. One notices right away that it's almost impossible to move on anything but snow. Well, you can get the little dolley wheels for only $600-$650. I can't even load my bike into the back of my truck unless the snow is packed deep over the edge of my tailgate. The carbides hit and if the bike doesn't stop instantly, spraining your wrists, cut grooves in the tailgate. This is also the cause of my first accident. The one side dug into a icey bump in the trail and jerked the bars from my hands and twisted sideways ruining all the ski support plates. I'm going to take a grinder to them or something. I figure I can get the kit working right and somewhat dependable for about $4500. But, I still will have little to no suspension travel in rear. So, the question is, would you spend an extra $1500 to have cushy suspension all round, factory gas can holder, and a ski that you can slide and has beefy supports for your expensive forks? How about 30 lbs kit weight difference? I haven't found anybody complain about these things falling apart. No I don't work for them.
 
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I will sell you a NEW fuel rack AND wheel kit for $650 + freight (Total)

"Everything in life is Circumstantial"
 
Is the pricing I'm getting from my dealer not correct? He won't even buy these kits for his own machine because they're over 600 each. If I can do better, I'm all ears. My bike won't even slide across a plywood ramp. The runners dig in so bad as to collapse the front suspension and cuts grooves. I'll be in touch after Christmas to buy them if you're serious. Is there a huge price advantage to buying these things in the US and shipping to CAN when that's where it came from anyways? I'm going to be snowbiking with the local dealer who sold me the kit. He'll be wondering where I got my accessories from and how did I pay so little?
 
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