Teach Me, O' great 2 Smoke Sledders.. (Gas Consumption & Fuel Tanks)
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Makes sense... a bigger displacement, higher horsepower engine with less fuel capacity... even given the lighter weight and fact that you had to "burp" an XM to get the tank anywhere near full...
No one really knows yet to be fair... brand new sled at the start of its inaugural season.
Fuel dump locations if you are in/out of the same location have always made sense.
Have fun... I have a feeling this sled will be a real smile maker.
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No one really knows yet to be fair... brand new sled at the start of its inaugural season.
Fuel dump locations if you are in/out of the same location have always made sense.
Have fun... I have a feeling this sled will be a real smile maker.
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Teach Me, O' great 2 Smoke Sledders..
I just bit the bullet and ordered the stackable fuel caddy and the new hard tunnel bag. On those rides where I think I will need it, I'll stack it under my tunnel bag up the trail, top off the sled when we get out to our riding area, and hide it somewhere for the ride back in. Unless I'm mistaken, this means only one set of Linq's on the tunnel, and even if it is tall on the way in/out, who cares on the trail?
I just bit the bullet and ordered the stackable fuel caddy and the new hard tunnel bag. On those rides where I think I will need it, I'll stack it under my tunnel bag up the trail, top off the sled when we get out to our riding area, and hide it somewhere for the ride back in. Unless I'm mistaken, this means only one set of Linq's on the tunnel, and even if it is tall on the way in/out, who cares on the trail?
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If you usually ride with one or 2 other sleds I found it to be enough to carry one gas can between 2 sleds and have the second rider carry extra gear lunch tools , etc. With the linQ system it is all interchangeable anyway. Fuel economy should be fairly close to the old 800 and that was very similar to my Apex before boost (For you as an old yay Guy) After boost -- Who Knows -- to early to tell.
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I don't know a lot of generalization here, example 1 ride 1-3 miles of trail link 4-5 difficult tree filled drainage's into 35-50 mile loop you conserve energy because of how difficult the terrain is and the exposure and remoteness of the loop, multiple stucks group effort to get it done ,no extra gas needed.
Example 2 ride 10 plus miles of fast trail on both ends lots of full throttle going round and round in meadows and pulling wheelies, multiple long hill pulls and your feeling good out front leading all the time breaking trail, most likely need extra fuel.
Having extra fuel is always a safe choice and piece of mind, I carry a siphon tube because somebody always has some fuel.
I don't know a lot of generalization here, example 1 ride 1-3 miles of trail link 4-5 difficult tree filled drainage's into 35-50 mile loop you conserve energy because of how difficult the terrain is and the exposure and remoteness of the loop, multiple stucks group effort to get it done ,no extra gas needed.
Example 2 ride 10 plus miles of fast trail on both ends lots of full throttle going round and round in meadows and pulling wheelies, multiple long hill pulls and your feeling good out front leading all the time breaking trail, most likely need extra fuel.
Having extra fuel is always a safe choice and piece of mind, I carry a siphon tube because somebody always has some fuel.
Thats got to make you the popular riding buddy!
If you stand around with your hood off and a cold one in your hands talking to your bros about how much better your can, exhaust, wrap kit, shocks, and/or any other lightweight parts are.... then no.
If you ride by those guys and ride full pin all day... then yes..
If you ride by those guys and ride full pin all day... then yes..
What a complete waste of a good day on the mountain!
Like powedermuncher said, one or two cans between 3 sleds would work and let the non-gas carrying rider carry some of the extra tools. Having several sleds that are identical allows for sharing of tools and part, which is a real benefit. Well, except when only you go with other riders/ sleds. Then you need to be self contained.
As for discount, my best prices have always come from the dealer where i bought the sled. Negotiate a percentage off parts and accessories as you negotiate the sled. 10% - 25% off accessories can be had.
As for discount, my best prices have always come from the dealer where i bought the sled. Negotiate a percentage off parts and accessories as you negotiate the sled. 10% - 25% off accessories can be had.
Ya, so far it looks like Ski-Doo has the resale market tied up TIGHT on holding the MSRP on its products. Serious price fixing seems to be well in place.
There HAS to be a discount channel out there somewhere for this stuff.!
Why are you going turbo right away???
My reason to change was to not need a turbo.
I have way more fun now -- all my buddies ride stock or mildly moded 800s and it is a fairly level playing field for everyone. The new sleds open up a whole new way of riding that was just not possible with the Apex or Nytro.
Now with the stock ( engine anyway) we end up doing way more riding. Now the rider becomes more of a factor -- who get to pull the hardest line instead of highest mark. Just a consideration you may be surprised.
My reason to change was to not need a turbo.
I have way more fun now -- all my buddies ride stock or mildly moded 800s and it is a fairly level playing field for everyone. The new sleds open up a whole new way of riding that was just not possible with the Apex or Nytro.
Now with the stock ( engine anyway
) we end up doing way more riding. Now the rider becomes more of a factor -- who get to pull the hardest line instead of highest mark. Just a consideration you may be surprised.
Why are you going turbo right away???
My reason to change was to not need a turbo.
I have way more fun now -- all my buddies ride stock or mildly moded 800s and it is a fairly level playing field for everyone. The new sleds open up a whole new way of riding that was just not possible with the Apex or Nytro.
Now with the stock ( engine anyway
Oh, I am NOT sure when I will do the install.
The plan was to use my sleds as Live Installs at our SnowShows.
But lack of availability of sleds put the kibash on that for October.
Now we are waiting to hear back from MPI on whether or not a full production kit is ready or not in time for next weekend's Boise show to do the Live Install.
If it was just up to "ME" personally with no business considerations, I would rather do it in the middle of summer when I can really take my time and do a super well documented installation story on it like I did for their Supercharger a few years back. Sort of a Photo-Installation manual that walks someone through 100% of the step-by-step process.
But having riden nothing but boosted sleds for the last 5 years now, I know I am a HP Junkie and no matter how well this new 850 performs, I will want MOAR... so one way or the other the Turbo is coming.
Why are you going turbo right away???
My reason to change was to not need a turbo.
I have way more fun now -- all my buddies ride stock or mildly moded 800s and it is a fairly level playing field for everyone. The new sleds open up a whole new way of riding that was just not possible with the Apex or Nytro.
Now with the stock ( engine anyway
Bang ON!!
On a super deep day we would run our xm's out of fuel in 3-4 hours. Let's say the G4 packs 1 gallon less fuel. That's 20-30 minutes on a super deep day. We would be going back to the trailer for fuel either way so I don't really think the smaller tank will be that big of a problem.
You need to hit up who ever you bought the sleds from. I have always got 10-15% off accessories.
Mostly depends on what kind of a rider you, a "rider" or a "watcher". I almost always go through my full tank and whatever I strap on the back. Sometimes after all mine is gone I start poaching from the "watchers", who never seem to use even thier stock tank. The 850, whether boosted or stock will be the same.
In my experience with one friend on Polaris, one on Ski-Doo, and me on Cats, we all go through a similar amount of fuel. If the snow's deep it's a lot. Riding Togwotee with 3' of fresh right from the lot and no trail riding we have been out in 35 miles before, but we were so tired it was time to get back to the truck anyway. Typical day for us anymore is 40-50 miles and the sleds pack about the right amount of fuel. When there was more trail involved and riding was less technical and tiresome I used to pack gas all the time.
Now my current sled has a big bore and a 2 gal larger capacity trail tank. It uses a little more fuel than a stocker so the bigger tank is right on. You might find that your fuel consumption will be up a little more as well with the turbo being added so the extra tank might be a necessity. The two boosted etecs I've ridden with both packed extra gas and needed it.
Now my current sled has a big bore and a 2 gal larger capacity trail tank. It uses a little more fuel than a stocker so the bigger tank is right on. You might find that your fuel consumption will be up a little more as well with the turbo being added so the extra tank might be a necessity. The two boosted etecs I've ridden with both packed extra gas and needed it.
WHEN HUNTING FOR A DEAL..
When in doubt, I always go to FREE AGENT (Michelle Knadle) and ask her.
Sure enough, she came through and can deliver at a discount.
Amazing lady!
She really is one of our BEST RESOURCES here on SnoWest for the members to take advantage of!!
So I am ordering 3 of the Fuel Caddies and a couple other goodies for my new Summits.
Cannon Power Sports
31633 64th Avenue | Cannon Falls, MN 55009
Phone (507) 263-4532
Your #1 supplier for DISCOUNT PARTS for Yamaha, Arctic Cat, Polaris and Suzuki.
When in doubt, I always go to FREE AGENT (Michelle Knadle) and ask her.
Sure enough, she came through and can deliver at a discount.
Amazing lady!
She really is one of our BEST RESOURCES here on SnoWest for the members to take advantage of!!
So I am ordering 3 of the Fuel Caddies and a couple other goodies for my new Summits.
Cannon Power Sports
31633 64th Avenue | Cannon Falls, MN 55009
Phone (507) 263-4532
Your #1 supplier for DISCOUNT PARTS for Yamaha, Arctic Cat, Polaris and Suzuki.
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On deep days riding hard i have consistently run my xm out of fuel right around 45miles. This always happens a long ways from the gas drop so I never leave my can it always stays on the tunnle and comes back empty. The etec does get exceptional fuel mileage under light to moderate use but guzzles it when wide open. I thinks it's great for everyone to bring a spare fuel caddy because sometimes I need to buy even more gas from people on the hill.
And just to make sure people understand the new stackable can is not to stack another can on.....heard some people talking about stacking fuel cans and that's not how it works you put a storage bag on top... and if you need a second fuel can it goes on the tunnel
And just to make sure people understand the new stackable can is not to stack another can on.....heard some people talking about stacking fuel cans and that's not how it works you put a storage bag on top... and if you need a second fuel can it goes on the tunnel
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