sorrry but I think the grooming is better ,,now we all get equal grooming..................we rode there thursday and had real good trails, there still is no base and after a bunch of sleds go over ,,anygrooming is gone....the 2nd groomer should be up and running by now with a new operator,,,,,,,,,,,,will take him some time to get into the swing of things,,,,,,,maybe with this thaw and freeze we can get some base, we rode out of the 3350 road, to buck meadows cross country to tamerick springs and down shadow creek........................