i am thinking of taking my sway bar off so i was interested in everyones opinion. Is it better with it off? i dont have any problem getting it on its side but i was just wondering if it makes a huge difference? thanks
If you have stock shocks I personally dont think it's that awesome. Unless you like it insanely soft, or some people crank the preload up a ton to accommodate for the lack of spring rate which is bad for your shocks as well as ...well wayy too much preload lol
If you have aftermarket shocks and can properly adjust for not having the sway bar, it is IMO awesome.
For example I run Fox Evols without sway bar and the sled trail rides great and sidehills, jumps, basicially anything like a dream.
If you have aftermarket shocks and can properly adjust for not having the sway bar, it is IMO awesome.
For example I run Fox Evols without sway bar and the sled trail rides great and sidehills, jumps, basicially anything like a dream.
This gets discussed ALOT, so there are other threads.
But I feel you should leave it on the Pro. If you can't side hill a Pro you should stick to the trail. I put X1's on my Pro w/o the sway bar and thought it sucked. Sure it was more tippy and easier to get on its side, but I was reluctant to go full throttle on the roads. As soon as the sled would dart it felt like I was going to barrel roll!
But I feel you should leave it on the Pro. If you can't side hill a Pro you should stick to the trail. I put X1's on my Pro w/o the sway bar and thought it sucked. Sure it was more tippy and easier to get on its side, but I was reluctant to go full throttle on the roads. As soon as the sled would dart it felt like I was going to barrel roll!
okay well sounds like i better just leave it on which isn't a problem at all...i'm a pretty aggressive rider and have no problem maneuvering the sled. I was just curious if it made a huge difference. i could care less what the sled does on the trail i didn't buy it to trail ride. All that really matter IMO is the handing in the mountain terrain and deep snow.
thanks for the feedback.
I made a quick disconnect cranked up the preload it was good until you went down the front end would dive like crazy it sucked
I rode with my sway bar IN for 2 years because "everyone" said no need to take it out. This year I was playing with different setups and decided to try it removed I will NOT be putting it back on. Yes it dives every now and again but the maneuverability in the trees was increased dramatically. I am a light rider and I have my preload cranked to compensate it just wasn't enough so I ordered raptor triple rates springs. For me I can't believe I rode for 2 years with it in. Even if the new springs don't make a difference which I know they will I would still ride it without. Each to their own its pretty simple to remove and if you don't like it just put it back on. I do recommend trying it without.
I came from 8 years of riding cats without a sway bar. I tried it first with nice on the trail but thats it. I took it off afer a couple hours and it made a huge difference IMO.
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FireDog14
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Why is it anytime someone asks this question there is always someone that has to say how easy the Pro is to pull over and sidehill and if you can't do it with the swaybar in you need to take riding lessons or stay on the trail?? How about if you need a swaybar on a mountain sled to ride the trails maybe you should take riding lessons or stay at the cabin knitting booties. Seriously how assanine!!
I think it is way better with the swaybar out and with shock and/or spring upgrades it is even better. Sure it is a little loose on the trails compared to with it in but it doesn't really slow me down. I will take the better responsive feel in the trees and powder without the swaybar any day. It's really all about personal preference and riding style. Try it without and see what you think.
I think it is way better with the swaybar out and with shock and/or spring upgrades it is even better. Sure it is a little loose on the trails compared to with it in but it doesn't really slow me down. I will take the better responsive feel in the trees and powder without the swaybar any day. It's really all about personal preference and riding style. Try it without and see what you think.
I rode for 1000+ miles in 2011 with the bar out.
No real adverse effects on the trail (typically limit my trail speed to 60mph or so)
BUT, for me what I noticed was two adverse effects.
1. When sidehilling or climbing on one ski, the loaded ski was near the bottom of shock travel and if I encountered a bump I was more likely to get knocked off line. I found this to be a negative.
2. The other negative I found was if I was traversing an off camber singletrack-- especially in set up snow-- the sled had a tendency to follow the off camber down the fall line versus staying neutral and easily following the singletrack. This was also a negative.
This is why my sway bar is in both my 11 and 12.
I weigh 170 lbs. and your results may vary.
I have ridden over 5000 miles on three different pros-- avoiding trails whenever possible.
What works for you and me may be different-- I respect others opinions, but not their blanket statements about how their way is "right" or "better" or how they are an expert keyboard boondocker.
As others have said, find what works for you. For me, the sway bar is in.
Murph.
No real adverse effects on the trail (typically limit my trail speed to 60mph or so)
BUT, for me what I noticed was two adverse effects.
1. When sidehilling or climbing on one ski, the loaded ski was near the bottom of shock travel and if I encountered a bump I was more likely to get knocked off line. I found this to be a negative.
2. The other negative I found was if I was traversing an off camber singletrack-- especially in set up snow-- the sled had a tendency to follow the off camber down the fall line versus staying neutral and easily following the singletrack. This was also a negative.
This is why my sway bar is in both my 11 and 12.
I weigh 170 lbs. and your results may vary.
I have ridden over 5000 miles on three different pros-- avoiding trails whenever possible.
What works for you and me may be different-- I respect others opinions, but not their blanket statements about how their way is "right" or "better" or how they are an expert keyboard boondocker.
As others have said, find what works for you. For me, the sway bar is in.
Murph.
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doorandt
Active member
I am 200 lbs on stock suspension. I rode a few
Hundred miles with sway bar in. No trail riding.
The sled was not built for the trail. I had no trouble
Sidehilling. It's easy. I did notice that the sled had a
Tendancy to level out. That is the purpose of the sway sar
Is to prevent cassis roll and try to make both sides of the
suspension do the same thing. If you are sidehilling on one
Ski, the other ski is fully extended. This means that the sway
Bar is trying to extend the ski in the snow and push u away
From the hill. I pulled the sway bar and increased the preload
a little. and loved it. It was easier
To turn much more aggressively. Starting a downhill sidehill or
Even turn back up hill became much easier.
For me... It's definitely sway bar out
Hundred miles with sway bar in. No trail riding.
The sled was not built for the trail. I had no trouble
Sidehilling. It's easy. I did notice that the sled had a
Tendancy to level out. That is the purpose of the sway sar
Is to prevent cassis roll and try to make both sides of the
suspension do the same thing. If you are sidehilling on one
Ski, the other ski is fully extended. This means that the sway
Bar is trying to extend the ski in the snow and push u away
From the hill. I pulled the sway bar and increased the preload
a little. and loved it. It was easier
To turn much more aggressively. Starting a downhill sidehill or
Even turn back up hill became much easier.
For me... It's definitely sway bar out
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geo
Well-known member
Sway bar or no sway bar? Why do we have to pick between black or white? Why no grey lol?
I've been playing with an adjustable set-up. Simple little thing that lessens the effect of the sway bar a little side to side but acts the same in a straight line. It works okay but I would also like to try stiffer in some snows but you can't add stiffness.
IMO Poo should offer at least 3 different sway bar diameters for this sled. This chassis loves to be fine tuned and as we know everybody doesn't ride or weight the same.
I've been playing with an adjustable set-up. Simple little thing that lessens the effect of the sway bar a little side to side but acts the same in a straight line. It works okay but I would also like to try stiffer in some snows but you can't add stiffness.
IMO Poo should offer at least 3 different sway bar diameters for this sled. This chassis loves to be fine tuned and as we know everybody doesn't ride or weight the same.
$.02 Sway bar, yes.
I like mine the way it came. But I am just a boring stock guy. And as you can see, not a very good rider.
I have seen the same argument about no need for the mountain bar either.
It seems to me anyway, that every professional snowmobile DVD I have watched, the rider has the sway bar and mountain bar on.
I like mine the way it came. But I am just a boring stock guy. And as you can see, not a very good rider.
I have seen the same argument about no need for the mountain bar either.
It seems to me anyway, that every professional snowmobile DVD I have watched, the rider has the sway bar and mountain bar on.
thanks for all the opinions im going to try riding w/o the sway bar and see what happens.
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