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steep turns?

Hey I'm new to climbing and I do alright on some medium hills but when it comes to super steep I go to turn around and I roll it 60% of the time what am I doing wrong? I don't let off the trottle and i am on the hillside boards when i turn around and gravity kicks in 60% thru the the turn and It rolls over. So basily I'm climbing up a steep hill almost vert. and its time to turn right so i give it throttle lean my body to the left of the sled so my weight is on the uphill side. And when my sled is basicly horizontal or across the grade it starts to tip please help me with my bad habits ;)
-J
ps- Any good tips of a new climber?
 
Get a turbo so then you won't need to turn out!

^^Funny, but true in some respects.^^

Turning out at the top of a hill its all about the right amount of momentum and balance, keeping the centre of gravity of you & the sled on the uphill side and low. Keep trying, only thing that really helps is experience.
 
Unfortunately experience is what it takes and you will roll it many more times while learning! Don't wait til the last second to turn out, you have to carry alittle speed while turning out or you have to be very good!
 
what i do if I were you don't climb as high as you can the first time up, climb up 1/4 of the hill turn out make sure your not sitting on the seat. Then go a little further each time.
 
I have climbed some pretty steep little lines, and the key is before your good at turning in a trench then just as soon as you really start to loose momentum is turn out, if you keep enough momentum up you wont have any trouble, i always used to roll my climbs over two. Once you get comfortable with turning out like that you can get used to turning once you trench in and arent going quick at all. nothing but seat time will cure it.

As for throttle, usually i know i need to turn out and start turning and hold it just above clutch engagement and coast around the top. if you wait to long this is no longer an option, and its scary to do when its steep, but you will get used to it really quick, practice on short open stuff.
 
Something simple - are you turning your skis into the hill as your turning out? Don't, turn the skis out. If that inside ski is cutting the snow, it's hard to point the sled downhill.
 
So when i'm turning right to go back down the hill, I should be on the left side of my sled on the edge of the seat or on the left boards. which direction should my skis be pointed so i don't roll?
 
So when i'm turning right to go back down the hill, I should be on the left side of my sled on the edge of the seat or on the left boards. which direction should my skis be pointed so i don't roll?

you should be able to do most everything from a neutral position i almost never jump from running board to running board but you should be on the high side
 
So when i'm turning right to go back down the hill, I should be on the left side of my sled on the edge of the seat or on the left boards. which direction should my skis be pointed so i don't roll?

if you are worrying about where you skis are pointing you are not carrying enough momentum through the turn. skis shouldn't even be touching the snow on a steep turn out , unless you try to sidehill out of it. the turn on a steep climb is all weight transfer and mometum. shifting your weight from the down hill side to initiate the turn then , quickly, hopping over to the up hill side while all the time judging your momentum. kinda like a dance with the devil..

trial and error, just hope the errors don't hurt.. imho

ps. GET OFF THE SEAT AND STAN UP
 
turning down

The more you ride the steep the better you will get at it. But i can feel it when i need to turn down its like a sense Idk but i haven't ever rolled!
 
Wow, I think If I rolled my sled 60% of the times I tried a climb I would stop doing it. lol

I would suggest spending more time on smaller hills and get a feel for it. Eric
 
just a matter of turning out sooner so you have momentum pushing you uphill onto the ground, dont swtich boards, just makes you off balance and unless you got some serious skill will get you into moure trouble then just standing like your still making the climb. its scary turning out when your sled is flat on the ground, it always feels like your going to roll, it tooke me about 4-5 days out to fianally figure out how to turn out soon enough as to not mess anything up then you can work up to the point you dont roll, its easy for somebody who gets it to show you in person, ther internet is a struggle to teach a feel thing over.
 
RELAX... and don't tense up. You probably get a little tight due to the bad experiences. Try really blasting up a smaller hill and cranking a hard turn with lots of speed. Almost like a powerslide on the flats. This might help your head get around the ideas it has. Then move up to the bigger stuff.
 
It sounds to me like maybe you're letting the sled just ride on the snow when you turn out. If you're climbing and losing momentum and turning out to the right, put your weight on the left (uphill) side of the machine and pull up on the right side while staying on the throttle. If you have a strap in the center you can use your left hand to help pull the sled up too. Turning out at the top is just like sidehilling in my opinion. If you practice sidehilling in small bowls or just on a little hill, turning out at the top will become second nature.
 
Step a litle further towards the back of you running board and turn it off the tail of the sled. You can swing the sled around almost in its tracks. Sometimes she goes down just to ofast to get it around, but if you are rolling it often you need to keep on the throttle and stand it up!
 
Begin by turning out before you think you need to. Weight slightly towards the back of the tunnel, straddle the seat if at all possible (standing up tall) or you might get whipped off the outside of the turn. Stay on the gas until you feel the mass of the front of the sled start pointing downhill, then off the throddle (this takes experiance and feel).

In deep snow you need to be agressive with weight transfer; upper body, weighting your foot (most people don't, but should), and pulling on the bars. Sometimes to start a turn, say right, it helps to weight left then quickly hard right. Kind of a rock and roll effect.

Practice, practice, practice on smaller hills (steep but short).

Learning a difficult new skill happens in plateau's, keep trying and eventually something will click in your brain and you'll suddenly realize 'owe sh*t, that's what I needed to do!'.

It's feel great when you finally learn a tough new skill ... that's half the fun of riding!
 
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