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Staking Turny

Stake the top of Turny for poor viz conditions?

  • Yea. Anyone can get turned around in the fog

    Votes: 17 44.7%

  • Ghey. Weather weeds out the weak

    Votes: 21 55.3%
  • Total voters
    38
  • Poll closed .
The Fourth Wolf

The Fourth Wolf

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After reading the latest updates about the viz going south this weekend it reminded me that it's probably happened to most of us who've ridden Turny regularly. I know it happened to me and I was genuinely anxious for about 30minutes when I got a lucky break...in the fog, got my bearings and made it down fine.

Anyway, what is the consensus about putting some stakes up top?

I'm not talking about turning Seattle Ridge into a Wal-Mart parking lot or anything just a few stakes at the top of the main descent route and maybe a few from the main exits of Bowl 1 to the main descent.

I'd do it out of pocket. I figure the staking might take 30-40 minutes.

And I'd coordinate with CNF just to make sure "we" don't get some bad PR for "unauthorized signage" or someother imaginary bureaucratic faux pas.
 
I think its a great idea! I too have have been up there and couldn't see 2ft. in front of wondering where i was. Good thought.
 
CNF (or another organization) might have spare orange plastic 8ft tall stakes to loan....Maybe if there are few people who would be willing to be responsible for them, bring them back in spring time, move them when Turny gets bunch of new snow....
 
I like the idea and would be willing to help. If you or "we" decide to do this just shoot me a pm I work on the slope so I have two weeks per month free to ride.
 
Great idea, but I bet they would not last a week before someone would mow them down just for kicks. Good luck.
 
Hmm.......interesting subject; read* anything to create drama?

Guess I am somewhat indifferent. I can see both? sides to this topic. Don't know that its needed (somewhat for the above mentions) but don't necessarily see that it would do any harm either. I was up there sun (dropped off the ridge toward 2nd bowl and did recognize homeslice? with grey rev- i was on orange cat w/orange rev) anyhows, when we came out, viz was pretty dam bad, didnt have problem finding path out, but did run into a group with some issues. So......take it at that.
 
If someone stakes it it won't matter... unless they are diligently moving them after every big storm. If its hammering up there, figure it out... leave before your tracks are buried...
 
Markers won't last a day before being mowed down. Don't need'em, don't want'em.
Wuss it all up and next thing you know there will little wussies with easily hurt PC feelings up there. None of us want that...

Drop zero bowl once by mistake, and I guarantee you will remember where you are at next time.
 
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IMHO if you need markers to get in or out you prolly shouldnt be there...And like prevously posted they wouldnt last
 
What about marking other trails then? For example the swamps of the E-W Trail? What is so different about getting riders safely off the mountain vs. safely through the swamps of Petersville? Just playing a little Devils Advocate. I dont think that Turnagain would be overrun by trail riders just because of a bunch of stakes.
 
tc_villain said:
What about marking other trails then? For example the swamps of the E-W Trail? What is so different about getting riders safely off the mountain vs. safely through the swamps of Petersville? Just playing a little Devils Advocate. I dont think that Turnagain would be overrun by trail riders just because of a bunch of stakes.
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Because at pville or Caribou hills in my case (live in soldotna) getting lost is generally a matter of inconvienance. Turny or any mtn can kill you. Look at the guys at Nellie last weekend. There are very few people that know that country better than the crew that got in trouble there. They all but live back there. Even they can get in a bad way. But, because they are experienced backcountry riders, they had what it took to keep a bad situation from turning deadly. Point is, if you can't even find your way around, odds are you aren't prepared for it either. I know there are some exceptions to that generalization, but for the most part, that is true. Sit on the side of a groomed trail for any period of time at the hills or pville, and someone will either point you to your destination, or take you there. There is a big difference.
 
Just so we're clear...I'm not some do-gooder in a tutu running around handing out bicycle helmets and reflective tape or anything.

I am, however, a career military guy and a pretty well rounded outdoorsman. I can read a map, navigate in the dark and build a fire in the pouring rain. What I cannot do is control gravity. There are some places we ride where the safe route down looks likes a number of not-so-safe places to go down.

Tim's comment above is exactly what I was thinking when I started this thread and it reminded me of the guys in P-Ville who followed-the-leader off a 50 foot cliff because they missed the down-trail in bad light.

I asked the question because I value the opinion of the SW-AK riders, many of whom are far superior riders than I am.

If the consensus is no, then no it is.
 
I wouldn't give up on your idea yet. Also, there are A LOT more snowmobilers out there than are on this forum. We are just a slice of the population. I think eventually proper trail signage will appear in more of our snowmobiling areas. It just takes some peoples time and a little money.

The Fourth Wolf said:
Just so we're clear...I'm not some do-gooder in a tutu running around handing out bicycle helmets and reflective tape or anything.

I am, however, a career military guy and a pretty well rounded outdoorsman. I can read a map, navigate in the dark and build a fire in the pouring rain. What I cannot do is control gravity. There are some places we ride where the safe route down looks likes a number of not-so-safe places to go down.

Tim's comment above is exactly what I was thinking when I started this thread and it reminded me of the guys in P-Ville who followed-the-leader off a 50 foot cliff because they missed the down-trail in bad light.

I asked the question because I value the opinion of the SW-AK riders, many of whom are far superior riders than I am.

If the consensus is no, then no it is.
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The Fourth Wolf said:
Just so we're clear...I'm not some do-gooder in a tutu running around handing out bicycle helmets and reflective tape or anything.

I am, however, a career military guy and a pretty well rounded outdoorsman. I can read a map, navigate in the dark and build a fire in the pouring rain. What I cannot do is control gravity. There are some places we ride where the safe route down looks likes a number of not-so-safe places to go down.

Tim's comment above is exactly what I was thinking when I started this thread and it reminded me of the guys in P-Ville who followed-the-leader off a 50 foot cliff because they missed the down-trail in bad light.

I asked the question because I value the opinion of the SW-AK riders, many of whom are far superior riders than I am.

If the consensus is no, then no it is.
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I say go forward with it..talk to Fs and see if they will let you..If it saves one persons life ..it was worth it...we use them to mark trail to my cabin..on a bad day up high when you cant see 5 ft in front of you..its a lifesaver..and has been many times....
 
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