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Social Security Broke?

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Wolfrun

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Now the news is saying Social Security will go broke by 2019. I would like to know how they figure that ? All these years they took the SC trust fund and spent it in the general fund. For the life of me I can't figure out how SC is broke as long as there is money in the general fund. I have been in business 26 years and I can't understand that kind of bookkeeping, can any of you. I say if the SC fund runs out they just keep writing SC checks on the general fund, of course that won't last long with Odumbo running things, Oh that's right it's all GB's fault.
 
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Yeah, makes me really happy to have to pay into it!!!!! I've got another 30 years and it sure as h$ll won't be there for me. As far as that goes, I'm worried about the fate of this country in the next 3 years let alone 30.
 
Funny They say there is no recession?

May 12, 2009
Annual checkup for Social Security and Medicare
Martin Crutsinger
The financial health of the government's two biggest benefit programs may have slipped over the past year, reflecting the deep recession that has already bitten into other areas of the budget.

The trustees for Social Security and Medicare are scheduled to provide their annual report on the finances of both programs on Tuesday. In advance of the release, many private analysts said they expected both programs could run out of cash sooner than last predicted.

A year ago, the trustees projected that the Social Security trust fund would start paying out more in benefits than it collects in taxes in 2017 and that the trust fund would be depleted in 2041.

For the Medicare trust fund, which pays for hospital care, the situation was more urgent. It was projected to start paying more in benefits than it collects in taxes within a year, and the trustees forecast that it would be depleted by 2019.

But many analysts said the worst recession in decades will produce a bleaker forecast for both Social Security and Medicare in the new trustees' report. The downturn has resulted in a loss of 5.7 million payroll jobs since it began in December 2007 and an unemployment rate that hit a 25-year high of 8.9 percent in April.

Fewer people working means less being paid into the trust funds for Social Security and Medicare.

The Congressional Budget Office recently projected that Social Security will collect just $3 billion more in 2010 than it will pay out in benefits. A year ago, the CBO had projected that Social Security would have a much higher $86 billion cash surplus for the 2010 budget year, which begins Oct. 1. The difference in the two estimates is the result of the recession.

While the smaller surplus will not have any impact on Social Security benefit payments, the government will need to borrow more at a time when the federal deficit is already exploding because of the recession and the billions of dollars being spent to prop up a shaky banking system.

For years, the Social Security trust fund has taken in more than it spent on benefits, resulting in a cushion of billions of dollars that the government could spend on other programs while giving the trust fund an IOU.

Even with the big drop in the Social Security surplus, Medicare's condition is more precarious, reflecting the pressures from soaring health care costs as well as the drop in tax collections.

For that reason, President Barack Obama is expected to focus on Medicare before he addresses Social Security.

Obama on Monday praised a pledge by the health care industry to achieve $2 trillion in savings on health care costs over the next decade, but it was unclear how much help those pledges would be in achieving Obama's goal of extending coverage to some 50 million uninsured Americans. The administration is pushing Congress to pass legislation in this area this year, preferring to tackle health care before Social Security.

The trustees report is still expected to set off a heated debate over the government's two large benefit programs, with critics saying it will highlight the failure of the Obama administration to take on the most serious problems in the budget — soaring entitlement spending, before the retirement of 78 million baby boomers makes the problems even worse.

The administration on Monday revised its deficit forecasts upward to project an imbalance this year of $1.84 trillion, four times last year's record deficit, and said the deficits will remain above $500 billion every year over the next decade.
 
Didn't Hoffa go to prison for loaning against the Teamsters pension fund?? How is what the govt does with SS any different?
 
"I would like to know how they figure that ?"

Simple.
The truth of the matter is SS has been broke since the day they took it from a set aside to the general fund.
It now costs more to pay out than money coming in. They figure that with the next generation retiring there won't be enough money coming in to pay even half of the amount going out.

Up until the Obamanation took office half of the our national debt was money owed to the SS trust fund.

One of the reasons the politicians want to grant amnesty to 12 million illigal aliens and all their relatives is because of the SS fund trouble. Their reasoning is that all those illigals will pay a "fine". That fine will go into the SS trust fund and keep is going. Of cource we know there is no politician on the face of the earth that will leave a huge chunk of cash sitting there. So all they will do is drive SS even deeper into debt because all the relatives coming in on the illigal band wagon will instantly be eligble for SS, Medicaid and medicare.

They are trying to get the first phase of amnesty thru. It is called the school exemption. Of cource it covers all illigals 35 and younger. Which is estimated to be 80% of the illigals currently in the country. SO they will get what they want and people will sit back and let them.
 
"I would like to know how they figure that ?"

Simple.
The truth of the matter is SS has been broke since the day they took it from a set aside to the general fund.
It now costs more to pay out than money coming in. They figure that with the next generation retiring there won't be enough money coming in to pay even half of the amount going out.

Up until the Obamanation took office half of the our national debt was money owed to the SS trust fund.

One of the reasons the politicians want to grant amnesty to 12 million illigal aliens and all their relatives is because of the SS fund trouble. Their reasoning is that all those illigals will pay a "fine". That fine will go into the SS trust fund and keep is going. Of cource we know there is no politician on the face of the earth that will leave a huge chunk of cash sitting there. So all they will do is drive SS even deeper into debt because all the relatives coming in on the illigal band wagon will instantly be eligble for SS, Medicaid and medicare.

They are trying to get the first phase of amnesty thru. It is called the school exemption. Of cource it covers all illigals 35 and younger. Which is estimated to be 80% of the illigals currently in the country. SO they will get what they want and people will sit back and let them.


Instead of the fine, do you think they could work it off like landscaping or breakfast burritos?
 
Social Security is a drop in the bucket at $12 trillion. The big one is medicare at a whopping $36 trillion. We are also on the hook for $12 trillion in general debt. Current cum debt is $146,000 per living American.

We've been a banana republic for a while now and at some point in the near future the dollar will collapse and we'll go to the Amero.

Guns, physical gold & silver, food, and property are to ways to go. And when it goes use those credit cards up. The stuff you buy with them will be worth much more than the debt in dollars.
 
Cool, so the easy way to end government social programs, is for everyone to stop working. If all Republicans just stopped working, I bet that would be like 80% of the federal revenue. After all, we've all learn with Obama's friends, liberals don't pay taxes, or don't work very much. :)

Oh, you can bet they won't let SS go broke. The golden club card holders would run over them with their land yachts. Nope, they'll just keep printing money, until they can easily pay back everything they promised, due to inflation. Of course, it may not be enough to buy a loaf of bread, but that's what their owed.
 
There was a proposal that would have allowed anyone under the age of 50 to opt out of the SS system completely. As usual, the republicans voted for it, the libs against it.

There will come a time in the not to distant future where people will wake up and realize there is no future for SS, Medicarea and medicaid. That is when the chit will really hit the fan.
 
80/20 rule here, its just backwards from what it should be. Instead of 80% paying for 20% not it is 20% paying for 80% of the bastards that sit and do nothing. There are over 320 million people in the U.S. (last time i checked), I have read stats where only 20-30% of that figure actually work, the rest are children under 18, elderly or retired, immigrants who feed off the system.

We wonder why its so wrong???? I am tired of paying taxes and then watch the scum at the store buy T-Bones with stamps while I have to live on a budget with my two kids. I will never see and SS, Pensions are going broke, time to say its my money.....and you aren't getting it.
 
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