PJ, I don't know the law, but a few years ago we were hasseled about a sled or sleds that were on a trailer w/o registration up at Cottonwood. Since then I make sure they have stickers.
So, I was in Federal court this morning.
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PJ, I don't know the law, but a few years ago we were hasseled about a sled or sleds that were on a trailer w/o registration up at Cottonwood. Since then I make sure they have stickers.
Well put PJ.
I've got a feeling it will be even worse this year. All the counties/states are low on cash and we've got that nice new "sound law" going into effect in CO. This will allow them to line us up and write even more tickets.
Although we ran into some fairly nice LEO last year, I know that tends to be a rarity.
I've got a feeling it will be even worse this year. All the counties/states are low on cash and we've got that nice new "sound law" going into effect in CO. This will allow them to line us up and write even more tickets.
Although we ran into some fairly nice LEO last year, I know that tends to be a rarity.
I had an issue in WY with a local federal squirel cop regarding WY stickers. I had a sled on the trailer in the parking lot that was not in running condition and had not been rode in a year or so. She finally did not give me the ticket. But as she understands the law and showed me, that you had to have a sticker on every sled in the state, even if you were just driving down the highway. She went so far as to say that if they wanted to be very strict, you would have to have a WY sticker on a sled just to driver through the state. I can't say I agree or it is right.
Buy your stickers Mr. Freeloader!!! Not sure where you live, but sticker fees, at least in WA go to help groom and provide sno-parks so we can ride.
Say what you want, but without funding and support from sledders, our sport will suffer.
Now paying taxes, based on your sled value for stickers sucks, but join a club, pay your state dues, sign up for BRC and SAWS instead of buying that new ported chaincase!!!
Oh yeah, here in the Democratic state of Washington, it is illegal to transport sleds or motorcycles that do not have vaild stickers, regardless of condition or age. Now that is a pile of Democrat!!
Say what you want, but without funding and support from sledders, our sport will suffer.
Now paying taxes, based on your sled value for stickers sucks, but join a club, pay your state dues, sign up for BRC and SAWS instead of buying that new ported chaincase!!!
Oh yeah, here in the Democratic state of Washington, it is illegal to transport sleds or motorcycles that do not have vaild stickers, regardless of condition or age. Now that is a pile of Democrat!!
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Well said!!!
I buy them for my sleds in WA, ID, WY, MT, because there is an effort to maintain and I support it. But in my area of WY we have yet to see a maintained atv or dirtbike area of any kind, or any kind of money going into the sport. but tons of money for horse trails. So on atv's and dirtbikes I could care less.
This reminds me of a night in Logan, UT when we were in a 95 Mustang GT that had headers and flowmasters on it, on the way to pick up one of our friends we went past a cop that had some one pulled over. We picked up our buddy and went back into town, over an hour had past by and we get pulled over by a cop.
He tells us that we were speeding through Logan over an hour ago and he could tell by the sound of the car when it went past that we were speeding, he knows it was this car because it was a black Mustang. My friend went balistic, LOL he said he wanted his name, badge number and his bosses name. Yeah he didn't get a ticket. Good times!!!
Gotta love Logans finest!!!
He tells us that we were speeding through Logan over an hour ago and he could tell by the sound of the car when it went past that we were speeding, he knows it was this car because it was a black Mustang. My friend went balistic, LOL he said he wanted his name, badge number and his bosses name. Yeah he didn't get a ticket. Good times!!!
Gotta love Logans finest!!!
This reminds me of a night in Logan, UT when we were in a 95 Mustang GT that had headers and flowmasters on it, on the way to pick up one of our friends we went past a cop that had some one pulled over. We picked up our buddy and went back into town, over an hour had past by and we get pulled over by a cop.
He tells us that we were speeding through Logan over an hour ago and he could tell by the sound of the car when it went past that we were speeding, he knows it was this car because it was a black Mustang. My friend went balistic, LOL he said he wanted his name, badge number and his bosses name. Yeah he didn't get a ticket. Good times!!!
Gotta love Logans finest!!!
I've heard that a few times,
Best one I ever heard. Riding with a Buddie and got pulled over for 82mph in a 70, the cop comes up acting like a dick and said "you know why I pulled you over" all high and mighty. My buddie looks at him and said "because I got a donut and you want one"......... He then took the $42 dollar ticket.
So you are saying that the Feds can ticket you for not having a tag on a trailered sled? WRONG!
Say you find a great deal on a sled with a seized motor that has been listed on Craigslist. You go and check it out and yeah, it's a great deal. So you hand the guy the cash and load it up in the trailer. Now, it snowed yesterday and there is 3' of fresh snow up on the Pass and you have the itch to ride and your regular sled is loaded and ready to go, tags and all. You decide to call the buds and go riding. So everybody meets up and heads to the hill. It's a nice, cold bluebird day, you can't ask for more.
You arrive in the lot and start to unload your legal, running sled and warm it up. Meanwhile there is a Tree Trooper meandering through checking peeps for stickers. He lifts his Modular Helmet to look in your trailer and sees the sled you just bought and asks "Do you have registration on that sled?" "No", you reply, "I just bought it from a guy yesterday down in Dipschittville for a song. It has a seized up motor but I can get it running by next weekend and I'll get registration for it when the office opens on Monday."
"Well," he says, puffing his chest out so his badge glimmers in the sun. "I'm going to have to issue you a citation for not having in registered." Mind you, you bought it from Joe Detonation Saturday afternoon. He gives you a ticket anyways.
I'm sorry, but that is FCUKING WRONG! You cannot be cited for that, EVER!
I have dealt with the USFS for the last decade and have never even been asked about the sled on the trailer, just the one sitting on the snow being warmed up.
What you all have experienced is an overzealous cop who likes throwing his power around like a bouncy ball. Those tickets, charges or whatever you want to call them are TRUMPED UP. No court of law would accept that and he already knows that. What he is trying to do is get you to accept the ticket and pay it. Thinking that you will realize that it will be cheaper to pay rather than take the day off and spend the entire day in Federal Court just to argue and have it dismissed. That is how the majority of all cops that give tickets operate. The same thing goes for "Improper Mountain Driving" tickets, pay by mail and get your points reduced when you can go to court and have it dismissed. Those charges are just what the cop uses to issue a citation when no actual laws were broken but he needs to write a ticket so he pulls that out of his azz. Trust me, I know this because I have been told by numerous Deputys that is what State Patrol does.
Stand up to them and don't let them back you into a corner.
FYI, I purchase registration for all of my OHVs including sleds. I do not buy tags if the machine does not run or it is for sale. I also donate to SAWS and BRC
Say you find a great deal on a sled with a seized motor that has been listed on Craigslist. You go and check it out and yeah, it's a great deal. So you hand the guy the cash and load it up in the trailer. Now, it snowed yesterday and there is 3' of fresh snow up on the Pass and you have the itch to ride and your regular sled is loaded and ready to go, tags and all. You decide to call the buds and go riding. So everybody meets up and heads to the hill. It's a nice, cold bluebird day, you can't ask for more.
You arrive in the lot and start to unload your legal, running sled and warm it up. Meanwhile there is a Tree Trooper meandering through checking peeps for stickers. He lifts his Modular Helmet to look in your trailer and sees the sled you just bought and asks "Do you have registration on that sled?" "No", you reply, "I just bought it from a guy yesterday down in Dipschittville for a song. It has a seized up motor but I can get it running by next weekend and I'll get registration for it when the office opens on Monday."
"Well," he says, puffing his chest out so his badge glimmers in the sun. "I'm going to have to issue you a citation for not having in registered." Mind you, you bought it from Joe Detonation Saturday afternoon. He gives you a ticket anyways.
I'm sorry, but that is FCUKING WRONG! You cannot be cited for that, EVER!
I have dealt with the USFS for the last decade and have never even been asked about the sled on the trailer, just the one sitting on the snow being warmed up.
What you all have experienced is an overzealous cop who likes throwing his power around like a bouncy ball. Those tickets, charges or whatever you want to call them are TRUMPED UP. No court of law would accept that and he already knows that. What he is trying to do is get you to accept the ticket and pay it. Thinking that you will realize that it will be cheaper to pay rather than take the day off and spend the entire day in Federal Court just to argue and have it dismissed. That is how the majority of all cops that give tickets operate. The same thing goes for "Improper Mountain Driving" tickets, pay by mail and get your points reduced when you can go to court and have it dismissed. Those charges are just what the cop uses to issue a citation when no actual laws were broken but he needs to write a ticket so he pulls that out of his azz. Trust me, I know this because I have been told by numerous Deputys that is what State Patrol does.
Stand up to them and don't let them back you into a corner.
FYI, I purchase registration for all of my OHVs including sleds. I do not buy tags if the machine does not run or it is for sale. I also donate to SAWS and BRC
These dciks are gonna shoot themselved in the foot. They keep closing areas and turning them into Wilderness. Soon, we will be all out of areas and forced to quit riding. Who is gonna buy regs now? The treehugging potheads tromping through the snow on snowshoes or skinny skis? Me thinks NOT!
Those tags pay for a lot and if they make it so we don't need to buy them for a machine that we can't ride, well, they are gonna be out of a job.
Those tags pay for a lot and if they make it so we don't need to buy them for a machine that we can't ride, well, they are gonna be out of a job.
I know of towns that will dry up and no longer be without snowmobiling, tree huggers suck.
Most of the problem causing law enforcement I run into are from somewhere like florida and really have no Idea what they are saying and just on a power trip. It really pis$es them off when you ask so where are you from anyway. Even if it is a law a sled is a functional snow vehicle, so pull the plugs out and and call it parts. Just like a gun if you pull the firing pin it is no longer a firearm and can be concealed.
Sweet!
I get to go to Federal Court this month too!!
Forest Service gave me a ticket for "driving on Tundra" up at Rollins Pass.
Simply parked my truck off the main dirt road. $275 dollar fine......and there are no signs up there telling you not to go off the road. Awesome.
I get to go to Federal Court this month too!!
Forest Service gave me a ticket for "driving on Tundra" up at Rollins Pass.
Simply parked my truck off the main dirt road. $275 dollar fine......and there are no signs up there telling you not to go off the road. Awesome.
Good luck, I think you are screwed.
This reminds me of a night in Logan, UT when we were in a 95 Mustang GT that had headers and flowmasters on it, on the way to pick up one of our friends we went past a cop that had some one pulled over. We picked up our buddy and went back into town, over an hour had past by and we get pulled over by a cop.
He tells us that we were speeding through Logan over an hour ago and he could tell by the sound of the car when it went past that we were speeding, he knows it was this car because it was a black Mustang. My friend went balistic, LOL he said he wanted his name, badge number and his bosses name. Yeah he didn't get a ticket. Good times!!!
Gotta love Logans finest!!!
yup that sounds like logan, i have had many a run-in with the logan city police in my day. there are ALOT of super troopers around here. even the little race incident i mentioned above about the careless driving ticket was in logan. for some reason the cop didn't believe me that my truck was just an old farm truck, musta been the sound of the lopy cam rumbling through the headers and dual 3" flowmaster exhaust.
one night we was out to dinner and had been sitting at the resteraunt for a couple hours b.s.ing. then when we leave my buddy in his old 01 dodge cummins gets pulled over about a half a block away from the resteraunt and the cop proceeds to tell him that the reason he pulled him over is because he had been running up and down mainstreet blowing smoke and hotrodding all night. the cop was threatening to give him visible exhaust tickets and all kinda of crap, my buddy just told him he was full of **** and we had been at the resteraunt for hours and that he could walk half a block back to the resteraunt and ask the waitress if he wanted to. the cop argued with him but in the end dropped it and let him go cuz he had no proof.
on the registration topic i've also had buddys harrassed by the cops for hauling unregistered sleds around in the back of the truck with no intent to ride them. hell one of them was a 70 somethin arctic cat that my buddy had just pulled out of a barn to get running.
