I am mcatjunkies wife of almost 13 yrs, yes now i finally have my own name on here lol... but i did call the us forest service of enumclaw, and spoke to a nice gentleman.. the not being able to ride rentals is false info, those officers dont know what they are talking about, but unfortanately chop wont beable to advertise his business up there until they give the option to apply for a permit to do so, which they will be in the future the gentleman said, you can ride rentals as much as you want, as long as you haul the sleds up there yourself, and the rental company doesnt do it for you. kinda lame i know, but thats how the ball bounces for now. maybe someday we can all fight this, but atleast for now, if you are a rental business you can still rent your sleds out. we can still all ride. thats a good thing!