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Snowbike Avalanche??

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Just curious. Has anyone heard of snowbikers that have been involved in an avalanche? If so, I would like to hear more about some specific details. I wonder if the lower weight and different riding style have a slightly lower probability of triggering an avalanche? I am a little surprised that with the extreme sidehilling in steep terrain that we haven't heard of more snowbike avalanches. Thoughts?
 
statisticly we are just way less likely given the amount of snowbikers out riding vs the number of snowmobiles. Lots more bikes right now out there then ever before but still no comparison to sleds.

That being said im sure you will see more and more as the numbers grow, it puts a lot less talented riders in really serious terrain with ease. Also one of my biggest fears is it allows people with limited winter back country survival/awareness skills (see dirt-bikers or new riders) to get into serious terrain. I love this about snowbiking as I can take new riders into some amazing terrain with ease, but again it shows me the exposure we can get ourselves into with extreme ease.

I know we have sloughed off and set small slides when ripping through gullies that could have easily buried guys. On one hand, because bikes spend more time in tight wooded terrain we tend to not spend time playing on big open terrain which has a habit of bitting people. BUT, we also cover insane amounts of ground, almost always in a steep sidehill and it is really easy to forget what is above you and all the exposure you are putting yourself in. Im sure its just a matter of time before new issues start to arise.

Take a class, have the gear, try and be smart. Its all you can do!
 
I haven't personally been involved in a slide, but do know of people who have on snowbikes.

I would suspect there are substantially less snowbikes involved in slides due to the fact that there are still substantially less of us (compared to sleds) and the terrain many of us typically ride is tighter trees. This is not to say you can't experience slides in tighter trees, but trees definitely add stability and protection.
 
I know of one that no one was caught in last year caused by snow bikes and one the year before that a snowbike rider was caught in and the bike came out in two parts with the ridder just shook up a little. Most of the key points have previously posted by others in here. Take class's, be aware, think ahead, and always be prepared the best you can.
 
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Just curious. Has anyone heard of snowbikers that have been involved in an avalanche? If so, I would like to hear more about some specific details. I wonder if the lower weight and different riding style have a slightly lower probability of triggering an avalanche? I am a little surprised that with the extreme sidehilling in steep terrain that we haven't heard of more snowbike avalanches. Thoughts?

IF a cross country skier can trigger an avalanche hiking along quietly , then its quite obvious that a thumping noisy big track spinning350 lb snow bike is a good avalanche trigger and likely a bigger sled is a better trigger. So riding style or bike weight will not help the uneducated.

The biggest avalanche danger is winter snow and lack of human mental ability to walk the walk even after the talk has been spewed but in the moment just can't resist, or complete lack of understanding of physics and the outdoors.
 
Having trouble figuring out where the snowbike Avalanche at Cottonwood occurred. How does one ride to Lost Lake? Is it off of a groomed side trail off of the main road over the pass?

Anybody know more details regarding this incident?
 
Having trouble figuring out where the snowbike Avalanche at Cottonwood occurred. How does one ride to Lost Lake? Is it off of a groomed side trail off of the main road over the pass?

Anybody know more details regarding this incident?









Me too, CAIC hasn't updated.


I don't recognize anything from the pic, and gave up trying to find Lost Lake on my phone.




Mirror is the lake above Tincup, so not it, plus would be a deferent county.




Anyways, sad news, and maybe the first ever snowbike avi death.
 
Jethro450 has two videos of two separate avalanches he's caused on YouTube.



I'm a lot smarter now...
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This is correct.... it was the first modern snowbiker killed an avalanche. It was up here in an area called Skyland just south of Glacier Park. If I remember correctly the slide path wasn't particularly large and occurred in an area dotted with trees (possibly a burn area, can't remember). He was riding with someone else but could not be rescued in time.

Nick is correct. We cover a ton of terrain and find ourselves in extremely risky terrain very easily. I was buried for 8 minutes in an avalanche back in 2011 and I can tell you that terrain wasn't particularly gnarly or particularly steep.... it was just bad conditions. One thing I am thankful for is that my glide path was mostly free of trees even though the slide started in a tree'd area. While the likelyhood of a slide starting in a tree'd area is statistically less, so are your chances of surviving that slide. Death from impact trauma is right up there with suffocation.

One thing I have noticed since my burial was that I do get concerned and I do pull back... but even with that I've still triggered a few and I've been on the slab when a slide started. We can mitigate as much as possible but you do need to accept that sometimes just simply being in the backcountry is a risk by itself. Even an extremely small slide can terrain trap you and seeing that bikes don't ride together and follow the same line like sledders do you can be left alone easily for 13 minutes.... that's about the time burial survival drops from 75% to 30%.
 
Get the right conditions and a lot of things can set off an avy. Have you had avy training?

old vid from my 2moto days, southern exposure on a warm spring day. Was setting off this stuff all afternoon

https://youtu.be/ItB2OBkFi6Y

 
This is correct.... it was the first modern snowbiker killed an avalanche. It was up here in an area called Skyland just south of Glacier Park. If I remember correctly the slide path wasn't particularly large and occurred in an area dotted with trees (possibly a burn area, can't remember). He was riding with someone else but could not be rescued in time.

Nick is correct. We cover a ton of terrain and find ourselves in extremely risky terrain very easily. I was buried for 8 minutes in an avalanche back in 2011 and I can tell you that terrain wasn't particularly gnarly or particularly steep.... it was just bad conditions. One thing I am thankful for is that my glide path was mostly free of trees even though the slide started in a tree'd area. While the likelyhood of a slide starting in a tree'd area is statistically less, so are your chances of surviving that slide. Death from impact trauma is right up there with suffocation.

One thing I have noticed since my burial was that I do get concerned and I do pull back... but even with that I've still triggered a few and I've been on the slab when a slide started. We can mitigate as much as possible but you do need to accept that sometimes just simply being in the backcountry is a risk by itself. Even an extremely small slide can terrain trap you and seeing that bikes don't ride together and follow the same line like sledders do you can be left alone easily for 13 minutes.... that's about the time burial survival drops from 75% to 30%.











Good post!


People blah blah about only riding trees, but as you mention, that = blunt force trauma.
 
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