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Snow Hawk?

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Rukus

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Why not use Snow Hawk for technical driving on snowmobile? Some on a Norwegian snowmobile forum think it must be easier to run "Rasmussen style" with a Snow Hawk. I'm not agree. So what do you say?
 
I would agree with you. It would make tree riding and sidehilling a breeze. Problem is that the snowhawk only exists is used older models. If ad boivin only knew how to run a dealer network and knew how to properly market these sleds, many of us might be riding one.
 
I would agree with you. It would make tree riding and sidehilling a breeze. Problem is that the snowhawk only exists is used older models. If ad boivin only knew how to run a dealer network and knew how to properly market these sleds, many of us might be riding one.

theres an almost new 600 long track Hawk here for sale cheap!
 
I would agree with you. It would make tree riding and sidehilling a breeze. Problem is that the snowhawk only exists is used older models. If ad boivin only knew how to run a dealer network and knew how to properly market these sleds, many of us might be riding one.

From what I read on snowhawk's website, they were bought out by a couple of guys? Still though, a done right up 2012 snowhawk 800HO with all their "options" is pushing well over $20k CDN. They must not want to sell a whole lot of them if thats the case...
 
a hawk will certainly out sidehill any sled, any day. It will fit threw a tighter spot than a sled and handle large whoops and jumps very well.
A sled will out climb a hawk easily.
It is to bad that the design has stalled and the price is threw the roof.
In stock form they are PIGS,Ergos are way off for most average size people,clutching is bad, heat transfer leaves something to be desired.
There are several tricks that must be done to make them a mountain carving machine.
It takes a guy with a wrench and some ability to make them work right.
 
a hawk will certainly out sidehill any sled, any day. It will fit threw a tighter spot than a sled and handle large whoops and jumps very well.
A sled will out climb a hawk easily.
It is to bad that the design has stalled and the price is threw the roof.
In stock form they are PIGS,Ergos are way off for most average size people,clutching is bad, heat transfer leaves something to be desired.
There are several tricks that must be done to make them a mountain carving machine.
It takes a guy with a wrench and some ability to make them work right.


And thats where part of the problem is as well. The Hawk guys are pretty spread out geographically. So when you need someone to help you "set-up" the sled properly, it is emails, phone calls and you go it on your own .......

I really wish these sleds were viable to buy. I really want one, but cannot justify it.
 
And thats where part of the problem is as well. The Hawk guys are pretty spread out geographically. So when you need someone to help you "set-up" the sled properly, it is emails, phone calls and you go it on your own .......

I really wish these sleds were viable to buy. I really want one, but cannot justify it.


They are pretty simple machines all info is readily available. and they are a blast to ride.
 
IMO the snowhawk was a cool concept but with the timbersled mountain horse being available, it is now extremely over priced and outdated. You can put a good snowbike together for under 10k, and be able to ride 12 months of the year...either dirt or snow.

That being said, snowhawk vs snowmobile - We aren't all able to ride like Burandt, so with your average guy the SH would probably boondock better in thick trees. Personally I'll take my chances on my sled until I have the coin for a snowbike.
 
I have been a die-hard back country rider for my entire life. I bought the Timbersled Mountain Horse with the anticipation of taking "back country" to another level. I hope I'm not dissappointed :) I know I will miss the H.P. of a sled, but hopefully that's okay due to the fun factor of a bike on snow.... We'll see :)
 
IMO the snowhawk was a cool concept but with the timbersled mountain horse being available, it is now extremely over priced and outdated. You can put a good snowbike together for under 10k, and be able to ride 12 months of the year...either dirt or snow.

That being said, snowhawk vs snowmobile - We aren't all able to ride like Burandt, so with your average guy the SH would probably boondock better in thick trees. Personally I'll take my chances on my sled until I have the coin for a snowbike.

A snow bike can't hold a candle to a hawk. The hawks have double the HP, at a minimum, close to triple on the 800's.
 
A snow bike can't hold a candle to a hawk. The hawks have double the HP, at a minimum, close to triple on the 800's.

The light weight of a timbersled kit works extremely well. It's not all about horsepower. Do you actually have experience riding both? Hope you aren't just making a blind comment with no actual experience. There are advantages and disadvantages to both. As far as sidehilling, way easier only having one ski. Such a fun sport that I hope more people get a chance to enjoy.
 
i have rode both and the limited range and power of the "snowbike" makes it more of just a toy to me. not something i'd be willing to give up my sled for. although i did enjoy the ease of getting one unstuck:) the snowhawk on the other hand with some real power and a real track is a whole other story. the price of the hawk as well as a yamaha type mentality for upgrading was its downfall.
 
The light weight of a timbersled kit works extremely well. It's not all about horsepower. Do you actually have experience riding both? Hope you aren't just making a blind comment with no actual experience. There are advantages and disadvantages to both. As far as sidehilling, way easier only having one ski. Such a fun sport that I hope more people get a chance to enjoy.

not a lot ..... couple hours in pow on a couple hawks and quick loop on moto bike (450). the hawks were stock power but one had a mod suspension. they were super fun, numble, etc and a blast in the trees. the power was pretty deep (2" to base) and they got around pretty well, an absolute BLAST in the trees. the bike seemed like more of a novelty to me. dont get me wrong, it was a blast (isnt anything with a motor?!) but IMO the power isnt there.

stock bikes are approx 50-55 hp, and the 600 hawk should be 110-120 and the 800 140 ish?? whats a bike with the timbersled kit weight? 270-300 (total guess on my part) and a hawk is 410 .... i honestly dont see how they could be compared to one another directly.

maybe someone with more seat time on both can chime in, im curious to hear real world feedback
 
I hear there is a really nice hawk 600 for sale here cheap:bounce:

In all seriousness. I have plenty of time on bike kits and Hawks. Both are a blast and in my opinion dont really compare to each other. Apples and oranges
The hawk has more power,Is a blast to ride,Kind of like riding a jet ski in the snow but not near as nimble in the tight trees or steep and deep as a MH. The hawk is a love/hate relationship. The bike kits are easy to live with and easy to move around, less maint etc. Both give you permagrin.
My advise:yo: get both
 
I dont have hawk experience but I have a lot of bike exp, the advantages that drew me to the bike kits were,

versatility, it is something I can ride all year long and alot! everyday on a street legal bike in the summer, spring and fall, off road trails and track and snow in the winter,

it takes up half the space in the garage,

you dont need a truck to move it and if you do you can put 3 in the back of a truck, so no trailer,

mileage is pretty good on bikes too.

they are light so getting them unstuck is easier, a bike I can lift the back end chest high even when I am knee deep in snow

12 inches of travel front and back of the best most best most durable proven suspension is cool

the easiness of maneuvering makes the end of the day or the next morning much nicer, as long as your not tipping over every 10 minutes.

I will be the first to admit there is absolutely nothing like grabbing a handful of 150hp and just shredding a hill but it is pretty sick to side hill up a hill Chris Brandt wouldnt side hill, stop half way up have a beer, get back on your bike turn up hill and keep going up. or climbing up through the trees that are only 30" wide.

or pounding a 2ft whooped out trail in 4th gear passing 2 skis that are trying to dodge the whoops with one ski on the side of the trail going 15mph.

plus the cool factor:face-icon-small-ton
 
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