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whitegold46
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saska...ed-with-gun-catch-incident-on-video-1.2577303
hmmmm..... thoughts??
hmmmm..... thoughts??
sledders threatened with gun on private property....
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At first, the media footage makes it look like the sledders were the ones being mistreated. And we can all agree that a gun was probably not necessary to bring to the conversation, but whether there were signs or not that read "no trespassing", they clearly turned into a gated area, and they were in the wrong. Home and landowners should not have to post private property on every tree in the country. If it's not your property, or you have not done your due diligence in finding the riding terrain that is out there for you to ride and is public, you are at fault. And he has the right to do whatever he wants on his property. Same scenario as people accidentally riding wilderness area. We need to educate ourselves so that we are not the demise of our own sport. In black and white, the sledders were trespassing and could be prosecuted for that. In fact there is likely more of a case for that, than a homeowner, under the second amendment bearing arms, and looking after his own property.
Once again, the gun was overkill, we admit that.
Once again, the gun was overkill, we admit that.
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That's quite an American style interaction though. I think everything seemed cool until the dude hit the sledder in the head. That's more uncalled for than the rifle IMO. There are such things as 'honest mistakes'. That guy is just acting like an a$$hole to pretend that's a complete impossibility. If sledders on his property are an ongoing problem then it's apparently pretty easy to do. He'd be doing his heartrate some good to take the time to put up some signs instead of just flipping out like that every time it happened.
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Jaynelson
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I dunno...the sledders must be pretty dense to go through the gate/fence and not think it's someone's property. Judging by the vid, I would totally assume that was private property even without a sign. Guy over-reacted? Ya I'd say so. That said, if he's had on going problems with sledders and no resolution....what is an appropriate reaction? I wouldn't take it that far if it were my property....but I also wouldn't be thick enough to turn off a road into a gated area and think it was public land. Play stupid games....win stupid prizes.
The dude over reacted. IMHO
Unless he has animals on his land what harm does a snowmobile cause to the land owner? I own and operate a 8000 acre farm, and if I were to chase down every snowmobile that crosses on my land it would be a full time job. He needs anger management ..
I would have used the idiot for traction... not.....well maybe depends on my mood at the time !!!
Unless he has animals on his land what harm does a snowmobile cause to the land owner? I own and operate a 8000 acre farm, and if I were to chase down every snowmobile that crosses on my land it would be a full time job. He needs anger management ..
I would have used the idiot for traction... not.....well maybe depends on my mood at the time !!!
One thing to consider, We ride on private property 90% of the time here in central Saskatchewan. There are no trails,no mountains, its nothing but farm land. You ride from field to field to field. Its been this way since the beginning of time(or the snowmobile) and everybody accepts it so its very easy to forget that some people will get very upset if you trespass.
Nobody is completely in the right here. I have no problem with him having a gun, he didnt point it at anybody. I do have a problem with him taking a swat at the other guy and trying to kick the headlights out of that Rev. I can only hope that I would have stayed as calm as these guys did.
Nobody is completely in the right here. I have no problem with him having a gun, he didnt point it at anybody. I do have a problem with him taking a swat at the other guy and trying to kick the headlights out of that Rev. I can only hope that I would have stayed as calm as these guys did.
I missed the part about the animals, and I agree still no reason for the defender to be in his hands.
The poll of people viewing this is 4 to 1 for the land owner and I agree. He's by himself. Doesn't know if the sledders are a$$holes or what. And who knows if the gun was loaded. And he states he's had trouble with sledders before. Consider the headlight and the cuff upside the head as a reminder. Don't ride on private property unless you ask permission! No one's dead. Move on. Nothing to see here.
Haven't you heard.... it's the GUN that commits the crimes not the idiots behind them.
Overkill for sure. He could have had a conversation before kicking out the headlights. Don't know if I would have been so calm once the guy kicked in my headlights or slapped me upside the head. Either way, both parties are wrong in their actions.
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BikerPepe`
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stay off private property, period. there is no excuse for it and if you take the risk, you deserve the outcome. when I was a kid we had a farmer that would shoot salt-rock at us on dirtbikes, for riding across his fields. I was 12 and had no idea of the damage I was doing or the cost to the property owner. Looking back... we deserved it.
I understand everyone has the immediate reaction to try and justify the sledders or claim the property owner was taking things too far. As far as I'm concerned... that fact that he didn't point the gun directly at them and didn't just start popping off rounds makes him the good guy here.
If he's had repeated and ongoing problems with sledders not respecting his property... then I could totally see his reaction as reasonable.
If this was a first time, one shot deal... then I could see that he went too far, but he claims that isn't the case and many of the comments seem to backup that this is an ongoing issue for him and others in the area.
I understand everyone has the immediate reaction to try and justify the sledders or claim the property owner was taking things too far. As far as I'm concerned... that fact that he didn't point the gun directly at them and didn't just start popping off rounds makes him the good guy here.
If he's had repeated and ongoing problems with sledders not respecting his property... then I could totally see his reaction as reasonable.
If this was a first time, one shot deal... then I could see that he went too far, but he claims that isn't the case and many of the comments seem to backup that this is an ongoing issue for him and others in the area.
Well my government just finished spending $3 BILLION(yes with a B) on a gun registry. Then they scrapped it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you take a basic firearm course, you can own non-restricted(read single action) weapons. Basically one pull of the trigger one bullet. Automatic well you have a bunch of hoops to jump through. You have to be classified as a collector(I think).
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sledneck_03
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It happened in my province.
You can ride on all private farm land in my province unless posted no trespassing.
You cannot show a gun or point a gun at anyone here with out consequence.
Its completely different around here and anyone not from the area will not understand.
The sledders were technically not doing anything wrong as long as they wernt riding passed no trespassing signs. This guy was completely out of line and i hope will get charged.
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sledneck_03
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All the land surrounding my city is farm land, and it covers pretty much half the province or more.
All that farm land is private.
You are allowed to ride on all private land unless marked with signs saying no trespassing.....
Its completely different here.
Think its crazy or not. But ive ridden for years. Probably close to 20 and have never knew anyone or got permission from to ride on any of that land. Multiple places all over the province. Ive never been chased down and yelled at or had a gun waved in my face.
This old guy is lucky they didnt grab the gun from him and beat the fawk out of him.
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I really am surprised they didn't wrestle the old uptight prick to the ground and shove the shotgun up his ---. The only time I cooperate and show any kindness towards a guy pointing a gun my way is when it happens to be law enforcement!!
