Polaris uses radio tech it acquired when it purchased trailteck
Ski-Doo: New Lineup REVEAL 2024
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I cannot find the "commodity surcharge" anywhere; at least not on the Canadian site.
Offsets the price increase a bit. I have heard rumors of increased freight and dealer fees.
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I’ve done floats in the past, never again, they are sensitive to temp and pressure Changes, and I was always playing with them to keep them in tune.
The torsion springs offer way more suspension adjustments, and spring rates, coupled with the clickers in the shocks, it can be taken even further with revalves. Have you ever seen a snow cross race sled without torsion springs, regardless of the brand?
The KYBs are a awesome shock when they are revalved to your riding style and weight.
The pro 40 and pro 36 have a long neck on the reservoir that will contact the a arm with the 34” a arms.
As far as Color, you mentioned cost, a wrap adds to the cost of the sled if there were options, a person could customize there purchase right from the factory, not everyone wants a wrap, but they do prefer choices. The freeride is a nice sled on paper but not nice to look at, some like the Easter egg look, some guys like pink as well, but I would not own either of them.
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I asked Doo on Facebook whether the 2024s would be delivered on time, this is what they said:
"Winter or bust! Guaranteed delivery of spring check orders to your dealer by Dec. 21, 2023 or you get up to $750 credit towards accessories, apparel or parts."
"Winter or bust! Guaranteed delivery of spring check orders to your dealer by Dec. 21, 2023 or you get up to $750 credit towards accessories, apparel or parts."
Decisions decisions… Looking most for sidehilling stability and precision while still hitting the occasional jumps and drops. I’m 265lbs plus gear. Was thinking the stiffer Freeride springs are helpful in that case. I’m currently on a 22 Freeride. No complaints of being too stiff.
I have experienced the same compromises with air. I still don't understand how a ski doo torsion spring offers "way more susension adjustments" with only 5 preload settings on a rotating plastic bar spring perch vs. Float Evol or infinitely adjustable threaded coilover body preload adjustments. 5 is less than infinity.
Springs are springs, shocks are shocks, You can revalve almost any decent shock. I like the KYBs also if they are set up right but don't see what that has to do with torsion springs vs. coils or air.
Maybe I haven't convinced myself of their benefits enough to get fast at it but changing an air spring or coilover springs is exponentially easier and faster for me vs. switching torsion springs
That concern is easily addressed with the several affordable options I mentioned in my last post.
Sure, SnoCross sleds may run torsion springs. Extremely stiff springs, everywhere. I ride mountain sleds in the mountains in powder at 10k' so what snocross racers run ona race course is of little interest or relevance to what performs best for this type of terrain, snow and riding. Last I checked the Freeride and all the Sk Doo Deep Snow segment is marketed and designed more for that, NOT snocross.
Personally I'd prefer to have to control of timely delivery and affordable replacement parts availability and the minimal cost and hassle of a wrap (never had one because I care more about performance vs. color) vs. waiting for my fashionable custom color combo of un-obtainium replacement parts to arrive while my buddies rip their easter eggs. My Sunset Red Axys cost on average $200-300 per replacement panel and they were never in stock, ever. Had to sell it with damaged plastics and lose value. Black and standard colors usually in stock and $60-100 average.
Last week my buddy pulled up to show me his '23 Polaris snowcheck. He ordered it with orange spindles and rails and it arrived with raw aluminum.
I order my '21 Axys snowcheck with red spindles too, and it came with black. We both were charged the additional custom color amount, too, which is charged interest when you finance it. $660< for custom colors, at what's often 9%< now, over x amount of years... plus delays in delivery for it... worth it for a maybe and no matching replacements available?
...So that's how great all the bespoke custom colors works out nowadays. Undeniable proof that the manufacturers struggle to deliver with the complications of custom colors and the consumer may take the brunt of it.
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You dont have 5, you have more than that, you do NOT have to run the same torsion spring cam numbers, nor do you have to run the same tension springs.
I run a staggered number, on my G5, and slightly stiffer torsion springs. One sled I ran a staggered number and two different tension torsion springs. Without loosing ride height, with a large jerry can and my tunnel bag.
Most guys wright off the factory shocks in favour of the big name aftermarket, I can put a monster sticker on my sled, it doesn’t make it better.
They guy that tunes my shocks, tunes the factory Doo race sleds, snocross and hillclimb sleds.
To each his own, you said archaic, I say fine wine. I like the torsion suspension in my GM as well.
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I had a guy revalve my 18 X shocks, which also have DR springs up front. Best shocks I have ever had for my application. You will always get a better set-up when your work with a builder than buying an off the shelf expensive pair.
Polaris Ride Command's "Buddy Track" feature does have it's own radio. It was developed by Trail Tech in their Voyager Pro GPS system. I believe Polaris bought the company, or at the very least has licensed their tech in the 7S screen. As a result, a Trail Tech Voyager Pro and a Polaris 7S screen will see and share location information with one another. To quote Trail Tech's website, Buddy track : "uses long range radio frequencies to connect multiple riders and display each rider as an icon on the screen. The external antenna is required for buddy tracking to function properly.". Their kits have a dedicated antenna using a proprietary protocol on an unlicensed frequency for device<->device comms, as does the 7S screen from Polaris.
I know just enough about tech to get myself in trouble. One would think that open radio frequency would be easy enough to reverse engineer and get them to talk… can they really hold a patent for something as simple as sending GPS coordinates over radio waves?…
I would think maybe they are using MURS. Garmin is using it on their Tread GPS systems to track other riders without cell use.
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Those ones will yes, they are not the same as the FR pro 40’s.
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Sorry I haven't watched the release, did the chaincase issue get resolved?
In the live ski doo engineers did today they have acknowledged that some customers have had chaincase issues and they are looking into the cause and possible solution once it’s identified.
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When did this live session happen? Was it the one that was in french?
he he he
Ya, that tag is no longer needed
This afternoon, no French it was in English. Think it was Steve Martin and some skidoo engineers. Sound was trash mic’s kept cutting in and out
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