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Sorry I skipped most of the long post. Gun laws work as well as drug laws. The bad guys will have them and the good guys wont...Im bad
Then take the time to read it, it's awsome!
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Second Ammendment in Court Today
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Then take the time to read it, it's awsome!
May I repost this elsewhere?
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Just a couple of points to remember/ponder..
When we had the riots in Los Angeles, law and order completely borke down. Cops were ineffective for what something like 2 days??
When we had the floods in Louisianna.. no protection what-so-ever. Cops looting (remember the videos).
In England law and order is breaking down, and criminals have guns. They are even re-opening the debate over firearms again.
A ban only keeps guns out of the hands of citizens not criminals and gangsters.
We need personal protection now, more than ever.
When we had the riots in Los Angeles, law and order completely borke down. Cops were ineffective for what something like 2 days??
When we had the floods in Louisianna.. no protection what-so-ever. Cops looting (remember the videos).
In England law and order is breaking down, and criminals have guns. They are even re-opening the debate over firearms again.
A ban only keeps guns out of the hands of citizens not criminals and gangsters.
We need personal protection now, more than ever.
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how could nobody have mentioned that the "people" mentioned in the 2nd amendment, which the guys arguing the case for the ban have said is open for "restrictions" are the exact same "people" in such biggies as the 1st amendment. I'm more worried about the courts siding with DC and a standard being set for restricting the peoples rights when deemed nesacary.
As for the long post, excellent story with many good points. But I disagree with this part, payments not to plant crops (CRP). To me it makes more sense to help animals then to pay farmers to grow corn that is then subsidized for ethanol, etc and does nothing to benefit the environment and wildlife.
As for the long post, excellent story with many good points. But I disagree with this part, payments not to plant crops (CRP). To me it makes more sense to help animals then to pay farmers to grow corn that is then subsidized for ethanol, etc and does nothing to benefit the environment and wildlife.
Except for the fact that it is misguided government intervention in the first place which causes the overproduction and the conversion of marginal land to cropland. I say get the government payments out of the equation and the farmers will farm the market instead of farming the government sibsidy largess.
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IF DC withholds the ban it will breed more of them period. I find it very interesting how the liberal train of thought is that personal rights are to be upheld at all costs yet they are the first to want to restrain them when it comes to the second amendment. HYPOCRITTS!!!!!
The whole thing comes down to govt intervention and how it's proving to be the downfall of american ideals. It's much like raising children. If you coddle them and bail them out of every little bit of trouble and hardship in life they don't learn respect, self reliance, and the value of work and money. They do learn to be completely dependant on their parents.
Same thing with govt. The liberal elite want the american people to be dependant on them so they can influence every aspect of american life and impose their will and ideals on the people.
Much like the uproar for the govt backed bonds to buy out/bail out banks. Every liberal is yelling, what about the people that are getting forclosed on. Well they need to be tought a lesson and if it takes them falling on their face financially then so be it. Then most of them wont do it again once they've rebuilt their credit.
The banks have done many irresposible things, but in the grand sceem of things since all the small banks have been absorbed by the big ones that leaves prescious few to support the economy. If they fall on their face we will face another great depresion. FDIC or not if the banks fail and go out of business with the state of the economy the govt can't pull it off. This is why anti-trust/monopoly laws were made in the first place and nobody has been watching the cookie jar.
The whole thing comes down to govt intervention and how it's proving to be the downfall of american ideals. It's much like raising children. If you coddle them and bail them out of every little bit of trouble and hardship in life they don't learn respect, self reliance, and the value of work and money. They do learn to be completely dependant on their parents.
Same thing with govt. The liberal elite want the american people to be dependant on them so they can influence every aspect of american life and impose their will and ideals on the people.
Much like the uproar for the govt backed bonds to buy out/bail out banks. Every liberal is yelling, what about the people that are getting forclosed on. Well they need to be tought a lesson and if it takes them falling on their face financially then so be it. Then most of them wont do it again once they've rebuilt their credit.
The banks have done many irresposible things, but in the grand sceem of things since all the small banks have been absorbed by the big ones that leaves prescious few to support the economy. If they fall on their face we will face another great depresion. FDIC or not if the banks fail and go out of business with the state of the economy the govt can't pull it off. This is why anti-trust/monopoly laws were made in the first place and nobody has been watching the cookie jar.
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All you say is true. He!! for the last seven years, our fearless leader has been in the freaking cookie jar!
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IF DC withholds the ban it will breed more of them period. I find it very interesting how the liberal train of thought is that personal rights are to be upheld at all costs yet they are the first to want to restrain them when it comes to the second amendment. HYPOCRITTS!!!!!
The whole thing comes down to govt intervention and how it's proving to be the downfall of american ideals. It's much like raising children. If you coddle them and bail them out of every little bit of trouble and hardship in life they don't learn respect, self reliance, and the value of work and money. They do learn to be completely dependant on their parents.
Same thing with govt. The liberal elite want the american people to be dependant on them so they can influence every aspect of american life and impose their will and ideals on the people.
Much like the uproar for the govt backed bonds to buy out/bail out banks. Every liberal is yelling, what about the people that are getting forclosed on. Well they need to be tought a lesson and if it takes them falling on their face financially then so be it. Then most of them wont do it again once they've rebuilt their credit.
The banks have done many irresposible things, but in the grand sceem of things since all the small banks have been absorbed by the big ones that leaves prescious few to support the economy. If they fall on their face we will face another great depresion. FDIC or not if the banks fail and go out of business with the state of the economy the govt can't pull it off. This is why anti-trust/monopoly laws were made in the first place and nobody has been watching the cookie jar.
very well said and i couldnt agree more!
to me the real reason for the ban on guns(and any aspect of the constitution) is control of the people. much less of a threat and much easier to control when the guns are gone. also an interesting parallel is the financial situation. people are much more apt to settle or accept a form of government, i.e., socialism/communism when they are financially crippled. when a guy is starving....???Similar threads
