I agree Reed Rode his best all year but he really thru it away last week when he could not come thru the pack. Now with a 6 point lead Vegas real don't matter. JS can get 3rd and still be the Champ.
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I agree Reed Rode his best all year but he really thru it away last week when he could not come thru the pack. Now with a 6 point lead Vegas real don't matter. JS can get 3rd and still be the Champ.
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Weather KC did it on his own, was asked to or just screwed up JS is the Fastest SX rider in the world not just good as you put it and already passed Reed (many time to win this year but Reed NEVER passed JS once this year to win) so I really don't think he needs help to beat Reed.
Reed only wins when JS crash witch he does more than Reed but can you really fault someone who tries that hard?? .............I can't.
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Anybody know when this race will be aired again? I missed it!
Just found this.
L&M Racing Official Statement
Apr 27 2009 5:07PM
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LOS ANGELES, CA - L&M's Team San Manuel Yamaha rider Kyle Chisholm was black flagged and asked to leave the race track for a move race officials felt was unsportsmanlike at round 16 of the 2009 Monster Energy AMA Supercross series, an FIM World Championship, April 26th, Saturday night at Rice-Eccles Stadium, Salt Lake City, Utah.
Upon further review, the FIM ruled that Chisholm interfered with another racers progress. As a result, he was disqualified from the Salt Lake City Supercross main event, fined and not allowed to race the series final in Las Vegas, NV this May 2nd.
According to Team Manager Larry Brooks, “We've discussed the incident at length with Kyle and firmly believe, as a Team, that he would never do anything intentionally unsportsmanlike that would jeopardize himself or another rider. I really believe Kyle when he told me, and the FIM, that he had made a mistake on the track.” Brooks added, “While I am certain that Kyle's error on the track was a result of a personal error in riding technique, we have to support the FIM's ruling.” “I know Kyle is truly regretful for the concern he's caused his Team, sponsors and race fans; it's an unfortunate situation for everyone.”
Chisholm, after working his way through a tough section of the track, found himself in between San Manuel Yamaha teammate James Stewart and competing rider Chad Reed. Kyle came into a corner with too much speed, applied the brakes, trying to stop his forward momentum, and accidentally struck the rear tire of his own teammate Stewart before catching the foot peg of Reed's bike. As a result, Chisholm himself was thrown off his Yamaha and into the tuff blocks; he remounted and subsequently asked to leave the track by AMA officials.
From Kyle Chisholm “I know I made a mistake during the race and take full responsibility for my actions. It was never my intention to make contact with James Stewart or Chad Reed however, I must respect the ruling of the FIM and accept the consequences as a result. I want to express my sincere apologies to our Team, our sponsors and to race fans everywhere.”
At this time, Brooks is undecided as to what further actions the Team will take regarding the incident.
I guess that ends that.
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L&M Racing Official Statement
Apr 27 2009 5:07PM
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LOS ANGELES, CA - L&M's Team San Manuel Yamaha rider Kyle Chisholm was black flagged and asked to leave the race track for a move race officials felt was unsportsmanlike at round 16 of the 2009 Monster Energy AMA Supercross series, an FIM World Championship, April 26th, Saturday night at Rice-Eccles Stadium, Salt Lake City, Utah.
Upon further review, the FIM ruled that Chisholm interfered with another racers progress. As a result, he was disqualified from the Salt Lake City Supercross main event, fined and not allowed to race the series final in Las Vegas, NV this May 2nd.
According to Team Manager Larry Brooks, “We've discussed the incident at length with Kyle and firmly believe, as a Team, that he would never do anything intentionally unsportsmanlike that would jeopardize himself or another rider. I really believe Kyle when he told me, and the FIM, that he had made a mistake on the track.” Brooks added, “While I am certain that Kyle's error on the track was a result of a personal error in riding technique, we have to support the FIM's ruling.” “I know Kyle is truly regretful for the concern he's caused his Team, sponsors and race fans; it's an unfortunate situation for everyone.”
Chisholm, after working his way through a tough section of the track, found himself in between San Manuel Yamaha teammate James Stewart and competing rider Chad Reed. Kyle came into a corner with too much speed, applied the brakes, trying to stop his forward momentum, and accidentally struck the rear tire of his own teammate Stewart before catching the foot peg of Reed's bike. As a result, Chisholm himself was thrown off his Yamaha and into the tuff blocks; he remounted and subsequently asked to leave the track by AMA officials.
From Kyle Chisholm “I know I made a mistake during the race and take full responsibility for my actions. It was never my intention to make contact with James Stewart or Chad Reed however, I must respect the ruling of the FIM and accept the consequences as a result. I want to express my sincere apologies to our Team, our sponsors and to race fans everywhere.”
At this time, Brooks is undecided as to what further actions the Team will take regarding the incident.
I guess that ends that.
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For what its worth Reed had the "hole shot" and at that point Bubba was in 7th. we all know how important the "hole shot" is
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ya man it will air on friday on speed. not sure on the time though. thought i had the tivo done but i forgot about the stupid cbs channel, haha got the lites instead.
From Racer X
Racer X: Let’s start with the elephant in the room: While running second to James Stewart, you guys lapped his teammate Kyle Chisholm, and I couldn’t see what happened where I was standing. What happened?
Chad Reed: I felt like I was in a great position. I was right on him [Stewart], and I felt like I had some good lines and I was putting it together, and he [Chisholm] pulled right out of the way and let James by, and then the next turn, he kind of raced in there, kind of like I had to be pretty aggressive to actually make the pass on him. I was on the outside, and I was thinking, “God, that’s kind of weird.” Then I go into the next turn, not even thinking about it – my mind was on the job, and that was to stay glued to James’ rear wheel and go for it – and I was getting ready to mid-turn exit, and Chisholm just came right up under there and hit me pretty hard. But what can you do? You’ve got people paying your bills and they’re telling you what to do.
I remember you complaining a year or two ago, when Nathan Ramsey was your teammate on the L&M team, but was hurt, that you didn’t have a teammate out there to help you out...
It has nothing to do with Nathan Ramsey being injured. Nathan Ramsey is a good guy. He’s a straight-up guy, and if anybody told him what to do, he’d just be like, “No way. I don’t roll like that.” I guess that’s why me and Nathan didn’t fit on that team.
All right... In this race, though, you didn’t have a teammate. He didn’t make the main event...
I think Mike [Alessi] had an off week. He wasn’t feeling that great. I know during the day, he was a little under the weather. I don’t know what happened in the Last Chance, but I would imagine he didn’t holeshot, but that dude doesn’t miss two starts in a row, and he’ll be back next week, and he’ll be in that main event, and I think at the start, he’ll be up there. I feel confident. He’s a good rider to have on your side.
You’re laughing now. You’ve got a smile on your face, but I know that’s a frustration thing...
No, I mean, seriously, what do you do? I felt like I rode one of the better races that I have. I felt much, much better than I have over the last month, and you’ve got to be happy with that. I was in a great position. I was sitting there right on his wheel, and he was making a few little mistakes here and there, and the track was breaking down... It was tough. I was just trying to go for it and put myself in a good position, and I felt like I did that tonight. When a teammate does that to you, what do you do? You want to be mad, but I know I’m going to sleep tonight knowing that I gave it everything that I had and I was true to myself. That’s all that matters. That’s why, more than racing and more than anything, being on this Rockstar/Makita Suzuki team, I really believe that they’ve made me a better person this year...
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Not just a better rider...
No, I feel like I’m a better person, and that’s huge. I’ll take that, champion or no champion. I’ve grown a lot, and I feel like I’ve learned a lot, and Roger DeCoster and his team staff are great role models.
Let’s talk a little bit about last week, because nobody really wanted to bother you after the main event, but there were rumors that you were sick. What was going on?
The truth is, I’ve been sick for a while now. I kind of had a small finger on the pulse of knowing what it is, but it’s been a long process. I haven’t been able to keep food down, and every time I’d eat, it would come back up. It’s been since Atlanta. After Atlanta, I had just explosive vomiting, and I’m not a person that enjoys vomiting at all [laughs]. Normally, when I vomit, I don’t really remember it [laughs]. Not that I should say that on this thing, but normally you don’t want to be in a condition where you remember it, and being right after the race and stuff, it was really, really rough. From Atlanta on, it’s been really difficult. I dropped a lot of weight. The week before Jacksonville and 10 days after that, I was on a liquid-only diet. That was all I could keep down. So I showed up in Seattle without the greatest preparation you could have, and I didn’t ride... I rode twice during the break: once on the Saturday of the weekend off, and then on the next Wednesday, and I had a huge crash, went over the bars and knocked myself out...
So it was a whole lot of things...
It was a whole lot of things, for sure. I feel like I got all my **** out of the way at once, and I believe that good things happen to good people. This thing’s far from over. I’m looking forward to next week.
We also have all these rumors about the nationals. Can you talk at all about that?
What rumors?
Oh, you know, some people are saying there is going to be a 22 bike on the line at the nationals every race.
Oh, I don’t know. I’ll tell you one thing: I have a flight booked for 10:30 Sunday night out of LAX to Sydney, so I’ll be on that plane with my wife, Ell, and we’ll be going back to Oz.
And then you’re going to come back and race the nationals...
I haven’t ridden outdoors since the Motocross des Nations, haven’t tested, and haven’t even ridden my track at home, so... These guys, you see it on Racer X Films, with Shorty out there and all these guys, since mathematically no one has a shot at this title other than James and I, they’re riding their butts off outdoors. I haven’t ridden once. I don’t think that would be good preparation, going to Oz and doing stuff back there.
So that means you’re not riding the nationals?
I would say there’s a good chance you won’t see me at Glen Helen. But if you do, that would be nice, huh? ShareThis Email Print
Racer X: Let’s start with the elephant in the room: While running second to James Stewart, you guys lapped his teammate Kyle Chisholm, and I couldn’t see what happened where I was standing. What happened?
Chad Reed: I felt like I was in a great position. I was right on him [Stewart], and I felt like I had some good lines and I was putting it together, and he [Chisholm] pulled right out of the way and let James by, and then the next turn, he kind of raced in there, kind of like I had to be pretty aggressive to actually make the pass on him. I was on the outside, and I was thinking, “God, that’s kind of weird.” Then I go into the next turn, not even thinking about it – my mind was on the job, and that was to stay glued to James’ rear wheel and go for it – and I was getting ready to mid-turn exit, and Chisholm just came right up under there and hit me pretty hard. But what can you do? You’ve got people paying your bills and they’re telling you what to do.
I remember you complaining a year or two ago, when Nathan Ramsey was your teammate on the L&M team, but was hurt, that you didn’t have a teammate out there to help you out...
It has nothing to do with Nathan Ramsey being injured. Nathan Ramsey is a good guy. He’s a straight-up guy, and if anybody told him what to do, he’d just be like, “No way. I don’t roll like that.” I guess that’s why me and Nathan didn’t fit on that team.
All right... In this race, though, you didn’t have a teammate. He didn’t make the main event...
I think Mike [Alessi] had an off week. He wasn’t feeling that great. I know during the day, he was a little under the weather. I don’t know what happened in the Last Chance, but I would imagine he didn’t holeshot, but that dude doesn’t miss two starts in a row, and he’ll be back next week, and he’ll be in that main event, and I think at the start, he’ll be up there. I feel confident. He’s a good rider to have on your side.
You’re laughing now. You’ve got a smile on your face, but I know that’s a frustration thing...
No, I mean, seriously, what do you do? I felt like I rode one of the better races that I have. I felt much, much better than I have over the last month, and you’ve got to be happy with that. I was in a great position. I was sitting there right on his wheel, and he was making a few little mistakes here and there, and the track was breaking down... It was tough. I was just trying to go for it and put myself in a good position, and I felt like I did that tonight. When a teammate does that to you, what do you do? You want to be mad, but I know I’m going to sleep tonight knowing that I gave it everything that I had and I was true to myself. That’s all that matters. That’s why, more than racing and more than anything, being on this Rockstar/Makita Suzuki team, I really believe that they’ve made me a better person this year...
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Not just a better rider...
No, I feel like I’m a better person, and that’s huge. I’ll take that, champion or no champion. I’ve grown a lot, and I feel like I’ve learned a lot, and Roger DeCoster and his team staff are great role models.
Let’s talk a little bit about last week, because nobody really wanted to bother you after the main event, but there were rumors that you were sick. What was going on?
The truth is, I’ve been sick for a while now. I kind of had a small finger on the pulse of knowing what it is, but it’s been a long process. I haven’t been able to keep food down, and every time I’d eat, it would come back up. It’s been since Atlanta. After Atlanta, I had just explosive vomiting, and I’m not a person that enjoys vomiting at all [laughs]. Normally, when I vomit, I don’t really remember it [laughs]. Not that I should say that on this thing, but normally you don’t want to be in a condition where you remember it, and being right after the race and stuff, it was really, really rough. From Atlanta on, it’s been really difficult. I dropped a lot of weight. The week before Jacksonville and 10 days after that, I was on a liquid-only diet. That was all I could keep down. So I showed up in Seattle without the greatest preparation you could have, and I didn’t ride... I rode twice during the break: once on the Saturday of the weekend off, and then on the next Wednesday, and I had a huge crash, went over the bars and knocked myself out...
So it was a whole lot of things...
It was a whole lot of things, for sure. I feel like I got all my **** out of the way at once, and I believe that good things happen to good people. This thing’s far from over. I’m looking forward to next week.
We also have all these rumors about the nationals. Can you talk at all about that?
What rumors?
Oh, you know, some people are saying there is going to be a 22 bike on the line at the nationals every race.
Oh, I don’t know. I’ll tell you one thing: I have a flight booked for 10:30 Sunday night out of LAX to Sydney, so I’ll be on that plane with my wife, Ell, and we’ll be going back to Oz.
And then you’re going to come back and race the nationals...
I haven’t ridden outdoors since the Motocross des Nations, haven’t tested, and haven’t even ridden my track at home, so... These guys, you see it on Racer X Films, with Shorty out there and all these guys, since mathematically no one has a shot at this title other than James and I, they’re riding their butts off outdoors. I haven’t ridden once. I don’t think that would be good preparation, going to Oz and doing stuff back there.
So that means you’re not riding the nationals?
I would say there’s a good chance you won’t see me at Glen Helen. But if you do, that would be nice, huh? ShareThis Email Print
Friday may 1st 7:00PM Eastern time on Speed
Las Vegas will be aired Saturday the 2nd 10:00PM Eastern on Speed
My prediction for Sat...
A yellow bike will get the holeshot
James will ride conservative for once in his life.
Reed will push it too far.
Josh Grant and mabey even a guy on a white Yami will put on a show worthy of Vegas.
Erin Bates will take on the Monster energy girls in KY wrestling match... It is Vegas ya know.
Friday may 1st 7:00PM Eastern time on Speed
Las Vegas will be aired Saturday the 2nd 10:00PM Eastern on Speed
My prediction for Sat...
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As someone who was actually there, and not trying to argue with anyone, but it was completely and blatantly obvious that it was done on purpose. Chisolm pulled completely out of the way for Stewart, and then sped up and pushed Reed, it actually looked like he was trying to run with him for a bit. Would Bubba have won anyway? Probably, but who's to say, James could just have easily crashed under the pressure of having someone on his tail for once. I've never seen Reed ride that well, and the second James would pass him, he had an answer and passed him right back. Would've been one of the alltime great races, but now it's just gonna be a championship for Stewart with a little asterisk like a roid infused baseball hall of famer. On the plus side-the lites race was probably the best race I've ever seen-period. Goodtimes anyways, what a blast to watch!
No way in hell is there going to be an asterisk next to the championship. KC had his brakes on, and slid into Stewart 1st. It was a stupid move, but if he wanted to take Reed out, he would have T-boned, and sent him flying. The only thing that slowed Reed down, was the whoops in the next corner. 5 seconds after it happened, he was 1 second behind. 4 laps later, he was 4 seconds behind. That didn't cost Reed the race, Stewart costed Reed the race.
Thanks for the input guys. Looks like he definatly meant to do it. Now Reed and others have an excuse to use him as traction for the rest of his SX days. I dont think Decoster will allow Alessi to do anything that might get him suspended from any part of the outdoor series. He is Suzuki's best hope at a title there. Anyone know if Pastrana is going to try to qualify for the race? He said after St. Louis that he might do another race this season. He cant run with Reed or Stewart but he is always exiting to watch.
Where did you come up with that from? Are you saying he tried to hit Stewart's rear wheel, or slow Reed down by half a second? That's all that happened. If he would have tried to take Reed out, a rider of his caliber would have been able to succeed with the angle he had on Reed.
Alessi is more of a class act than that also. I don't believe he would do that to anybody, even if he hated them. He know's what it's like to get ran over.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5dqrhcU3a0
That hurts just watching it.
It's kind of hard to use a guy for traction when you can't catch him. Reed has never caught Stewart, and passed him. He just don't have the speed. Nobody on this planet has the speed to catch JS. He's so much better of a rider than anybody else, that he makes everybody else look like there just racing for 2nd place. If he keeps it on 2 wheels, he's not going to loose.
Alessi is more of a class act than that also. I don't believe he would do that to anybody, even if he hated them. He know's what it's like to get ran over.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5dqrhcU3a0
That hurts just watching it.
I don't know about that, He has tried to take out RV more than once!!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5dqrhcU3a0
That hurts just watching it.
I don't know about that, He has tried to take out RV more than once!!
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Just going by the poll so far 17 to 7 people say he did it on pupose thats all.
Uhh... I don't think it will ever be hard for Reed and others to catch Kyle Chisholm and use him for traction. I dont think James had any Idea KC was going to do anything but what do I know.
