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RMK/DRAGON 700 vs YAMAHA NYTRO MTX

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OLD GOAT

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Without trying to start a massive brand bashing war.... A friend is buying his first sled this weekend. He is about to bring home a 2009 nytro MTX 155. The four of us that ride together think he's nuts. We all have Dragons & M8's tend to do all off trail riding at rabbit ears. We all say it is too heavy & under powered (don't tell him to get a turbo). I know heavy, I spent 2 years & 2000 miles on an Apex, but never rode a Nytro. Anyone out there ever spend enough time on or have a Nytro vs the others to have a real opinion? He has buying fever really bad & won't wait for the snow to fall to test one!
 
Close to 2,000 miles of tree bashing at the Ears with my 08 Nytro and love every minute of it, most of my riding is with Snowmark which most people know who have ridden with him shows no mercy when it comes to boondocking at the Ears... My Nytro goes most places his M7 does. If you guys do a lot of hill climbing then the stock Nytro will not fit the bill unless it's got one of those fancy blowers on it. As far as comparing it to a Apex there is no comparison between the two machines the Apex is a god awful heavy feeling thing while the Nytro will flip over on a dime, great for boondocking..
I can't imagine owning another 2 stroke.. Good luck..
 
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The Nytro handles like a much smaller sled, and is a very nice ride.
Its a reasonably capable sled, but not a D8 or M8 climbing or in powder.
Boost is a completely different story.

BUMPER STICKER: "Friends don't let Friends ride Nytros without a pair of Harmon Jacks"

;-)
 
I ride an 07 600 HO RMK. I tested an 08 Nytro last winter and I liked it. Totally different (in a good way) than an Apex. That said, I wouldn't trade the handling of the IQ chassis for it. It felt comparable in power to my well tuned 600. I do like the "pull and go" nature of the 4 stroke, and not having to buy oil all the time is nice. At the end of the day, I'll keep my Polaris. Apparantly, I have nothing valuable to add....ahhhh well. It's friday. Beer me. :beer;
 
The 2010 nytro looks pretty damn good, I was going to buy a 2010 m8 sp at the end of the season as a leftover, but after seeing the improvments on the nytro, a 4 stroker might be in the cards?
 
I had a stock '08 Nytro in '07/08....I was fairly disappointed with the deep powder performance after coming off my '05 Summit 800. However, the second season I switched the rear skid and track, and tuned the clutching.....WOW, what a difference!! I ALWAYS loved the handling, and these mods made the deep powder performance MORE than respectable. I only got stuck 1 time last year on it, and it was a super deep day at Buff Pass where we were breaking trail and I parked it vertically on a big knoll...made it further than anyone else that day, tho (D8's in the mix, too).

Pull and go, turn key, ride and forget......all these explain the Nytro. Mod the track and the skid, and you'll be smiling all year long in the deep, too!
 
Without trying to start a massive brand bashing war.... A friend is buying his first sled this weekend. He is about to bring home a 2009 nytro MTX 155. The four of us that ride together think he's nuts. We all have Dragons & M8's tend to do all off trail riding at rabbit ears. We all say it is too heavy & under powered (don't tell him to get a turbo). I know heavy, I spent 2 years & 2000 miles on an Apex, but never rode a Nytro. Anyone out there ever spend enough time on or have a Nytro vs the others to have a real opinion? He has buying fever really bad & won't wait for the snow to fall to test one!

Hey OLD GOAT don't let him buy, Have your friend go pull up either m8 or d8 at the dealer, on the floor. If that don't sell him have your friend watch SCHOOLED :confused: I would like to see some one ride like that on a
 
Oh man, don't let your newb buy a nytro. YOU will regret it! lol Not a bad sled in capable hands, but no way he's going to hang with your gang. Prolly couldn't hang with you on a turbo M either, but at least he'd have a fighting chance :face-icon-small-hap
 
You guys desparaging my ears need to drop off the edge once and awhile:rolleyes: :p
 
Oh man, don't let your newb buy a nytro. YOU will regret it! lol Not a bad sled in capable hands, but no way he's going to hang with your gang. Prolly couldn't hang with you on a turbo M either, but at least he'd have a fighting chance :face-icon-small-hap

x2, that's what I was thinking.
 
hey Bushy, lookin forward to seeing you up at the ears again! you haven't fallen off the wagon & gone back to drinking that Fat Tire beer again have you? If he buys it we are all going to chip in & buy a hi lift jack for him!
 
Last year I rode with a crew from one of the dealerships, they had a few stock sleds, the stock nytro couldn't climb with the 600 that they had (think it was an IQ, stock)

Do you REALLY want to be digging your buddy out all season with a sled that's 100 lbs heavier than it could have been?

Tell him to try any stock 800 & he'll never look at that nytro again.
If he's gonna mod it, that's another story, but stockers... the other 3 are just SO far ahead of it. I was really surprised by what I saw that day, it was pitiful.
 
hey Bushy, lookin forward to seeing you up at the ears again! you haven't fallen off the wagon & gone back to drinking that Fat Tire beer again have you? If he buys it we are all going to chip in & buy a hi lift jack for him!

lol, I never left that wagon, but it's Trippel for me;) I try the peewater, but I drink X2 as many of them:rolleyes: So it's meal in a bottle for me :face-icon-small-hap Looking forward to riding with you and Billy again this year! When the Nytro is hung up i'll be catching my breath...or plugging up my lungs! lol
 
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I had a stock '08 Nytro in '07/08....I was fairly disappointed with the deep powder performance after coming off my '05 Summit 800. However, the second season I switched the rear skid and track, and tuned the clutching.....WOW, what a difference!! I ALWAYS loved the handling, and these mods made the deep powder performance MORE than respectable. I only got stuck 1 time last year on it, and it was a super deep day at Buff Pass where we were breaking trail and I parked it vertically on a big knoll...made it further than anyone else that day, tho (D8's in the mix, too).

Pull and go, turn key, ride and forget......all these explain the Nytro. Mod the track and the skid, and you'll be smiling all year long in the deep, too!

psssh, i get stuck more on my Tnytro than i did on my rev. :P well..mb not.. amount of time stuck doesn't indicate weather a sled "works" or not..is my point.

and on the subject...nytros (w/o engine mods) with the right couple of mods can really work well in the deep...and it can be amazing what such a fat sled can do.
but reguardless, i'll still take a "stuck Rev" over a "stuck Nytro" at 10k feet.. :P
but on the same note, i'd much rather have the handling of the Nytro...so as long as the Nytro is moving it should get along just fine w/ other 700s.
when the nytro is stuck...well...just get a jack/bunjee. :D


i think a new sledder starting on a 4 stroke is a good thing. some people may have experience from other motorsports to fall back on when coming over to sledding.
but i think most people "new to the sport" don't necc. need the biggest and longest sled as a starter sled per-say.

and oil is another serious thing to consider, maybe even more so w/ the economy lately.
an oil change cost once a season vs the amount of 2 stroke oil consumed is pretty significant for weekly riders. let alone having to keep it on hand, stored, and...to remember puting it in before each ride. ><


no need to be too hard on the guy, when hes stuck, just make a few more circles around him while he digs a bit before helping him out...if you need to jab him for his sled choice. ;)
by joe, i do the same thing to some of those 2 stroke riders now n again to get em back!! haha


when it comes down to it, theres much more to it than just wt/hp to decide upon now. turn key, pull trigger can actually increase your state of mind and energy alone!
no more pulling n pulling n pulling, n pulling n pulling . . . or burning hands on hot pipes/cans to fix recoils...etc etc ohhhh the memories.


if only the 4s had electronic reverse...easy 9-10 lb wt loss!



...wow this got long...
 
The D7's are a pull and go sled without the issuses of the D8's. It will take a newbie almost anywhere and it is FAR easier to un-stick. It requires mimimal maint. and should last years without a rebuild. And a few gallons of pre-mix oil a year are considerably less expensive than the initial price difference between the nytro and the RMK. Even if they were both the same price, he will have to drop a lot of coin into a diet plan for the nytro before he puts any money into HP mods.
The RMK needs a new can and maybe a riser depending on his size.
It is NOT too difficult for someone to remember to bring oil and top it off with a fill-up.
If it is, then don't not ride with them. What else would they forget? We all have our pre-ride checks.(or we all should) Even yammie riders. Gotta check the engine oil.
Bottom line is that all newbies get stuck more often than seasoned riders. (OK, most seasoned riders). At 10k feet that extra weight feels even heavier.
The RMK/D7 package is simple, reliable, and lighter. Better for a newbie in my book.
 
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