Revy avalanche

[motojunkie101]

Words cannot describe how horrible I feel for those that were involved. My thoughts and prayers are with the family and friends of everyone out there.

Please for Gods sake, be careful out there!

 

[xrated]

; The guy on the hill who made one of the biggest mistakes you can make when hill climbing (and no doubt the biggest mistake of his life) this guy I feel will have to answer enough of his own questions an I hope his name is never made public.

x2

 

[Cardiac Kid]

There is no one on this forum that hasn't made a bad decision at some point in our lives, that didn't likely risk someone else life to some degree. Most of us do not have to live with the results of that mistake and get to reflect upon it today as this event remind us of how important it is to do our best to make good choices. If you have a 15 yr old learning to drive give them your full attention and advice to make the best decisions they can. If they like to ski or ride sleds in the outback take them to an avalanche class with you and talk about it while you are out riding. Learn all you can to keep yourself safe and protect the safety of other. Pray that when you make a mistake, and you will, it doesn’t have lasting effects.
I will pray for the individual who made a poor judgment in this moment of excitement. I will also pray for the families that have lost a loved one. I pray for a full recovery for the injured still in the hospital in serous and critical condition, and I will give a prayer of thanks to all who were prepared with probes and shovels and to the S&R who did an outstanding job.
The best that can be taken from this is the knowledge we can all gain to remind us to be aware of the condition each and every time we go out and to weight the risk responsible. There just aren’t any guarantees.
I saw in the films a well organized and equipped group of people on that hill. Most didn’t go up there completely unprepared. In hind sight it is very easy to say nobody should have been there and many made that good decision.
That all said we need to rally together to support the families that lost too much this weekend, not bicker amongst ourselves.

 

[catnfool]

x2 cardiac- I have been in that guy's shoes and triggered a slide on a guy. It was over ten years ago, and I still thank God that we found him alive and I am able to be alive for my family. This is a brutal reminder about the "one guy on the hill at a time rule" that we sometimes forget about when the cameras come out, but CAN'T FORGET anymore. RIP and lots of love for the grieving familys.

 

[Jeff C]

I can absolutely see how this could happen.

1. You have high powered sleds, that can do what most of our sleds can't do. Were sledders, we want to see these things work their magic.
2. You have people coming from thousands of miles to see this.
3. The pressure to "see something".......... "Heck, we drove 1,500 miles and we are darned sure not going to sit in our hotel rooms........"
4. Moths to a flame, people just cannot help it, and their guard drops, and they head out to the mountain.


What I worry about is the POLITICAL PRESSURE. The Canadian government will want to nail someone..........

I feel so bad for those families............

 

[roughrider99]

just made the 17 hour drive back from revy and now pullin the horseshoes out of my ***. me and a buddie attended the event and i was have clutching issues. went back to town to grab parts fix sled then rush back out to turbo in time for some hill climbs. buddies xp had a faulty fuel sensor and thought he was low on gas so we turned around and played around the drag race hill. if it was for my sled not working we woulda showed up just in time for the avalanche. didn;t even bother riding today as the realization of how lucky we were sunk in. what i have gathered is 2 dead and about 40-50 injured. and this afternoon there was a couple there still unaccounted for. conditions were deffinatly a repeat of the sparwood incident. tons of fresh pow wasn't much snow in recent weeks and blue bird day. thank god there was only a few hundred at the event and not a few thousand at the bottom. thoughts out to those who passed and best wishes to the injured. pretty sure this is the end of BIS

 

[skidoochick564]

This isn't the time or place to blame anyone for this. I don't think there will ever be any time or place to blame anyone. This is a horrible accident, but from what I've seen in news coverage the people that were up there were well equipped and handled the situation in the best way possible. Many people were saved because of that. My thoughts and prayers are with everyone involved in this tragic event.

 

[sleddread]

survivor tell his story

Here is a survivor telling his story, his injuries are a bit grafichttp://www.globalsaskatoon.com/world/story.html?id=2682042

 

[Mafesto]

I halfway disagree on this one.
While I agree that an organizer has some level responsibility to provide a safe venue for his or her event, at the same time EVERYONE in the backcountry has a personal responsibility for their own safety. That's why we call it the backcountry, its one of the few places in todays world that we get to make our own decisions. We don't have some idiot in the gov telling us what we can and cannot do in the backcountry and we would really like to keep it that way.
Plus, the last time I checked there is no super qualification required to be an event organizer, just a passion and enthusiasm for the activity, so why we would look at the organizer as the keeper of all knowledge and safety is beyond me. Its the BACKCOUNTRY, just because someone doesn't tell you to get away from the edge of the cliff or the bottom of the hill does not mean that its safe or prudent to be there. Everyone at that event had access to avalanche reports that were screaming danger danger, and everyone knew how much fresh snow had fallen recently on a suspect snowpack. If they didn't know those things then they had no business being anywhere near the mtns. Our society is already like a bunch of sheep that blindly follow each other around, please do not further that unfortunate trend by placing all the blame on the event organizer.
Yes, it would've been prudent to restrict one rider to the hill at a time, or to postpone due to conditions, or perhaps to move to a safer location. But no one was forced to be there, and I'm not even sure anyone was paying for the privilege to be there, the backcountry comes with inherit individual responsibilities, please do not try to pawn those responsibilities off on some organization or gov branch.

I am truly sorry for the victims, and especially sorry for their families. May God be with them and may they all receive all the support and love they need to get through these trying times.

BINGO!

If we go on a witch hunt, prepare for fewer & fewer events being held.
Our club holds a speed run event on ice & we know that also can have catastrophic consequences from conditions out of our control

What's done is done. Time to learn & move on.

 

[RMK_Ryder02]

some people

..some people are just soo ignorent about this tragic event... for the people who are Bi***'ing about how they dont want to waste tax payer's money on search and rescue.. take a second and listen to that phrase .. are you saying you wouldnt waste money paying people who say have to save your son or mother one day ??? thats pretty cold people ..truly just about self image these days isnt it.... RIP boys

 

[knee deep in it]

one thing that we have to remember, the avalanche did not occur at a Big Iron Shootout event. The Turbo hill climb was scheduled for Sunday. That is why there is no helicopter footage of the slide. Everyone at Turbo was there on their own.

There are lots of opinions on Ozone but it is a little unfair to expect him to bear the responsibility for everyone's safety on Bolder mountain, even after the show is done for the day. After the Bull Pen, 450 people went in different directions to play.

The three Big Iron Shootout events had mostly one rider at a time or drag races where the hill was safe and racers were lined up at a gate. In the three BIS events, the spectators were far enough away that the slides that came down were not a danger to the crowd.

Props to Crazy Canadian and Blair for having a cool head and organizing the search and rescue. This could have turned out to be a lot worse than two deaths.

 

[jfamod]

Thank you

It is easy to be critical.......... And we all need to re-evaluate how we act in the back country. But we can also be proud of all the snowmobilers that as quick as possible started searching for survivers. The rescuers are all heroes in my book. They make me proud to be part of this sport. I wonder how often you find this kind of comraderie in the world. A big "thank you" to everyone who helped with the rescue. You make us all proud to be snowmobilers.

 

[summitboy]

will an admin pls ban this guy? hes doing nothing but stirring the ...

I totally agree and second the motion ! OT is doing nothing worth while in this thread.

 

[SylvanLaker]

You know guys with the avy conditions the way they were even if the fellow hadn't highmarked above the other guy, the next few pulls probably would have dropped the slab. I think it was inevitable. The only comment I can make and has probably been made already is nobody should be parked in the avalanche path. I think this is why it was such a bad outcome.

It saddens me to learn of the deaths, especially with young families.. Prayers

 

[Sleddar]

i havent been on here for ages but i heard this terrible news on the TV last night and immediately thought of all my snowest buddies. My thoughts and prayers are with everyone involved.

 

[strippedhood]

It drives me nuts to see people in the media trying to blame the rider/riders who "triggered" the slide, or saying that something needs to be done to control these types of "events".
This happened in the backcountry where everyone is responsible for themselves and their own safety. The people sitting at the bottom who were in the path of the avalanche are the only ones responsible for their safety. You can't blame the guy that was on the hill at the time the slide was started just like you can't blame the guy that organized it. From what I have read this wasn't even an event of the BIS its just where a bunch of people went after some of the races.
There is definitely pressure to ride despite the danger when people have driven so far, but if riders did not know the danger they were in they should not have been there and cannot blame anyone else.
For the most part it sounds like they were pretty well prepared and did a great job in the rescue, I just can't stand the way most media outlets are telling people about it.

 

[Jeff C]

I totally agree and second the motion ! OT is doing nothing worth while in this thread.

I disagree.

While OT (And myself for that matter) can be a bit abraisive at times, he is only trying to provoke thought.

I have been going out avalanche country for just over 20 years now. I have seen alot of threads on avalanche deaths. ALOT!!

What thread would it be ok to spark discussion?

There will always be people who say "Get that guy out of here admin"

I say, lets have the discussion people!! (Notice I said discussion)

I am tired of responding to these threads with "RIP, we will say a prayer for the dead, and the families"


There was NOBODY there to put the brake on this gathering, with the conditions so ripe for an avalanche.

 

[summitboy]

I hardly think a public hanging is provoking thought ! If you want to provoke some thought start another thread and do it in a more appropriate forum/thread. There were/are people looking for loved ones and trying to give support to the people who have just been through a traumatic event. The last thing they need is some keyboard jocky ranting on about his personal opinions. Do it somewhere else out of respect for the fallen and the people that just lived through this ! Its pretty simple !

 

[OT Bar & Grill]

Snowmobiling in the backcountry is a privalage not a right. This privalage will soon end.

OT

 

[caproskis]

Prayers and thoughts are with all the friends and family members involved and they would be able to rescue any survivors still out there.