I hope people that aren't sure about how they feel about the conversions and all the new excitement on the forum realize that if the explorer kit doesn't make it a great machine and lots of owners will suffer in the end. If Boivin doesn't profit with there new product they might say hell with it and close the doors, that would mean no more hawk parts and by by to possible 2009-2010 new hawk buyers, after riding a conversion one will know it is not as rad as hawk but darn fun in its own ways, especially if all your buddies have one and it is then real competitive riding. After a year or two on the explorer I garantee people are going to want the next step up,( the hawk) This would mean alot of sales for Boivin in the following years and the reintroducing of the hawk. I think with time most off road enthusiasts will be on a some form of one ski in the future. As far as the forum name getting switched I think snowhawk should stay and conversions should enjoy the forum name the way it is. Remember go big and show some good pictures on this forum, I want to see some new action. My eyes hurt from all the reading.