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Pro 800 set up questions.

Matte Murder

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My new 2012 Pro 800 163 is not handling the way it should. It is just not getting up on one ski like I know it should. Most won't believe this but my Freeride is easier to sidehill right now then the Pro, same day same conditions. Has to be set up right? Should be easier right? I have the Assault style clicker resi's on my shocks. Sway bar connected but I have the sway bar QD installed. Skis in the middle location. Going to try the narrow ski setting and disconnect the sway bar(against Holz recommendation, they did my shocks) next time out. Any other ideas? The front end is way planted right now too. Should I let out the limiter strap too or just try the adjustments mentioned first?
 
Stiffen the spring on your center shock and make sure the rear is setup per your weight according to the manual. Give that a shot and see if it works better :face-icon-small-coo
 
I love mine with no sway bar. Just ordered the qiuck disconnects as it will make the trails more fun. Also wrong foot forward with foot near the front of rail makes down hill turn ups a breeze.
 
Stiffen the spring on your center shock and make sure the rear is setup per your weight according to the manual. Give that a shot and see if it works better :face-icon-small-coo

X2. Maybe soften the rear a turn also. Soften the IFS to where the retainers just hold the spring in place - do this with the sled on its side or the front hung so the skis are off the ground.

Do you still have stock RMK springs or Assault springs?
 
I agree with softening the front shocks as much as you can, when this is done you can actually butt-ride the sled like my old VE, makes for a much improved ride when smokin' down the trail and through the whoops also.
 
sounds like everything is too stiff spring wise..loosen the rear track shock a turn or two as said above, same with the ski shocks, tighten the frt track shock a turn or two..best deep snow performance is always with the shocks as soft as you can ride it without excessive bottoming..if you jump ..its gotta be stiffer but you will give up flickability unless you are real careful dialing it in...
 
first rip for me will be Dec.16th,i read in the manual shocks have all been set up for 160-220lbs,i weight 170-180.Was curious is anyone had to adjust any of the those setting..If anything i might just give the front shocks a few clicks,soften it up for in the pow and harder on the trail..Any advice?
 
Handle bar location is a big deal too. Too far forward or too far back makes a huge difference in the way it will handle.
 
Definitely play with your suspension setup. I think something you aren't considering is that you are coming off a ski-doo, and if you have gotten to a point where you can manage a sidehill on that non-sidehilling chassis your technique and riding style is suited to the XP still.

I know that when I rode my buddies XP it was like going from a bicycle to a friggin unicycle!!! If you give the Pro some more seat time and re learn how to ride it you will be amazed by its maneuverability.
 
My new 2012 Pro 800 163 is not handling the way it should. It is just not getting up on one ski like I know it should. Most won't believe this but my Freeride is easier to sidehill right now then the Pro, same day same conditions. Has to be set up right?

It may just be a technique thing - the following is meant to be helpful and not a "yer doin' it wrong" lecture.
Where are your feet on the running boards on the XP, and then where do you put them on the Pro? This has a big impact on how the machines sidehill. From my limited XPerience, I need to stand way back on Doo boards to free up the sled on a sidehill. The Doo also doesn't like as much counter steer as a Pro as the Doo skis act wierd when close to full lock. I ride with my feet in or very near the footwells on the Pro and use a bit of counter steer, a little throttle blurp and some insde foot pressure to initiate a sidehill. Then, it's just a matter of adjusting my body position along the running board for the conditions, along with counter steer adjustments to hold a line. For me, on the Pro, foot steering goes a long way to making the sled start to do what I want. After you get more seat time, let us know what's working on your Pro.
 
Thanks all. I stand forward with my toes under the bars that go over the boards at the front. Handle bars are in line with the steering post if I remember correctly. I did have a revalve when Holz did the Assault resi's. Have the QD for the sway bar. Going to put the ski's narrow and soften up the front springs and the rear shock spring and take one turn stiffer on the front skid shock.
 
matt...try standing back about 8-12 inches from the stirrups, bringa wrench and try moving the bars forward and back ..but do this after you try the suspension adjustments...my doo buddies who have spent quite a bit of time on mine each liked the bars in a different place, and after moving them they magically liked the sled and could make it perform much better...
 
Definitely play with your suspension setup. I think something you aren't considering is that you are coming off a ski-doo, and if you have gotten to a point where you can manage a sidehill on that non-sidehilling chassis your technique and riding style is suited to the XP still.

I know that when I rode my buddies XP it was like going from a bicycle to a friggin unicycle!!! If you give the Pro some more seat time and re learn how to ride it you will be amazed by its maneuverability.

Have u rode a 2011 ski doo are newer? There much improved over the older xp.

As far as the pro run your shocks soft as can be no sway bar and tilt your bars back some I came off 2011 skidoo to a new pro and I put the bars back some and it helped slot.
 
All I can say is there must be something seriously wrong with your sled. Every Pro I've ever ridden has handled about the same; good. Are you used to a different chassis and fighting it? Give us an update if you get it figured out because I'm stumped!
 
More riding time and you will be fine. It took me some time to get use to it and I can tell you it's definitely the best sled I have ever ridden.
 
I understand what your saying. I have 2 Pros. At first I had a hard time getting them on there side. On mine I tightened the front track shock all the way. Now it just takes a little foot pressure. My sons is all but an inch. Huge difference. It stays on its side even when cutting a sidehill across old tracks. Got to love it.
 
Had the same problem - everyone was, like, wow dude maybe you just don't know how to carve? WTF?! Are you KIDDING ME?! The thing that fixed it was to tighten the hell outta the front track shock - leave only an inch of threads showing. HUGE difference! NOT ALL SLEDS ARE COMING SETUP CORRECTLY FROM THE DEALERS PEEPS! One turn aint gonna cut it! Also Holz, Carls and Burandt are right - leave the stabilizer bar in. I went half the year without and half with last season and it sidehills/carves better with the bar in (dives otherwise and you don't have as much control). Without it felt good initially but control is a real issue without as the stock springs are horrible.

Have FUN!

G MAN
 
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Moved my bars (just a little)and the sled was much more difficult to ride. My friends 12 XP was easier to roll over. Nuts how the little things will dial a sled in for you.
 
Guessing these reccommendations for suspension adjustments hold true for the Assault as well?
Thinking I need to add some spring tension on skis and soften up the compression clicker, same on yhe front track shock, then soften the rear track shock some for proper sag?
 
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