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Polaris Reports "Alarming" 65% year-over-year decline in adjusted EPS for 2025

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Polaris Reports "Alarming" 2025 EPS Outlook As RZR & ATV Demand Slide​

((Adjusted earnings per share (EPS) is a calculation that adjusts a company's earnings per share to account for unusual circumstances. It's a way to show a company's financial health more accurately by removing one-time gains and expenses.))

Tuesday, Jan 28, 2025 - 07:45 AM
Polaris shares fell 6% in premarket trading after the company, known for producing ATVs, UTVs, jet skis, and snowmobiles, surprised investors with guidance for a 65% year-over-year decline in adjusted EPS for 2025, coming in far below expectations.

Citi analyst James Hardiman told clients earlier that the downward revision was very "alarming," warning about President Trump's tariff battle with China could result in additional downward pressure for EPS for the full year.

"While management suggested on their 3Q call that a good starting point for 2025 EPS would be flat with 2024, which was guided to $3.25, at the time, management officially initiated 2025 adjusted EPS guidance at just $1.10," Hardiman said, adding his team maintained a "Neutral" rating on PII shares.

Polaris' Yearly Forecast (courtesy of Bloomberg):

  • Sees adjusted EPS about -65% from 2024's $3.25; estimate $3.06
  • Sees sales -1% to -4%
However, Polaris reported better-than-expected revenue in the fourth quarter, though sales fell 23% year-over-year to $1.76 billion. High interest rates deterred consumers from purchasing RZRs, Sportsman ATVs, and other offroad vehicles.



Here's a snapshot of the fourth quarter:

  • Sales $1.76 billion, -23% y/y, estimate $1.68 billion (Bloomberg Consensus)
  • Off Road sales $1.44 billion, -25% y/y, estimate $1.36 billion
  • On Road sales $180.8 million, -21% y/y, estimate $209.8 million
  • Marine sales $137.4 million, -4.1% y/y, estimate $118.3 million
  • Adjusted gross profit margin 21.1% vs. 20.8% y/y, estimate 21.3%
  • Cash and cash equivalents $287.8 million, -22% y/y, estimate $397.8 million
  • Adj. EPS 92c, estimate 90c
Covid bump ended in 4Q22.



Polaris's YoY revenue growth is the worst since GFC.



Bloomberg noted:

  • For 2025, expects margin headwinds from negative mix, planned reductions in production leading to negative absorption in addition to the restoration of the company's employee profit- sharing program
  • Primary factors affecting fourth-quarter sales were lower volume due to planned reductions in shipments as we actively managed dealer inventory in a subdued retail environment
Shares are back to Covid crash levels.

Bottoming fishing is a dangerous game...



Several months ago, Polaris CEO Mike Speetzen warned that "consumer confidence and retail demand remained challenging."

 
Wow ... I was hoping we at least weren't going to read this about Polaris and BRP with whats going on with Arctic Cat and KTM right now especially ... Hopefully Trump doesn't screw this up even worse with his tariffs.
 
Wow ... I was hoping we at least weren't going to read this about Polaris and BRP with whats going on with Arctic Cat and KTM right now especially ... Hopefully Trump doesn't screw this up even worse with his tariffs.
Looks like Trump and Mexico HAVE SETTLED.
No Blanket Tariffs.

Just waiting on Canada now.
 
Looks like Trump and Mexico HAVE SETTLED.
No Blanket Tariffs.

Just waiting on Canada now.
The Canadian dollar will tank if they dont get in line with what Trump tells them. One silver lining will be home mortgage rates will drop but all the overspending from the past will lead to a recession, if not a depression in Canada. Meanwhile, Trump and the Republicans have come to an agreement for no tax on tips, social security and overtime. It will be voted on in March. If I were Canadian, I'd be getting my paperwork in order to move to the US.
 
And to follow the Columbia tariffs…..
Their President not only sends his jet to bring in the flights he originally rejected, he also sends out a plea to all illegal Colombians to come home immediately.
Offers special loans and incentives to all returning citizens.

AOC and others were still bitching about how Trump ruined Valentine’s Day because we won’t get our coffee or chocolates…still saying it after the tariffs threat had already done its intended job.
 
Looks like Trump and Mexico HAVE SETTLED.
No Blanket Tariffs.

Just waiting on Canada now.
We didn't elect little orange manchild ...we have enough children in our house of commons without having to deal with yours. DT and JT are both dillusional narcissists. While if doesn't appear so at present, hopefully smarter and more mature minds will prevail.
 
I’m not surprised. They let prices get out of control and the general public is reaching the end of their liquidity. The venn diagram of their target customer and those who can afford their toys is ever shrinking.

Add to that weak ass winters in much of the continent over the past 5 years and here you go
 
I WAS DEAD NUTS WRONG!!!

Trump Slaps Tariffs On Canada, Mexico And China

Update (10:20pm ET): Just hours after Trump unveiled double-digit tariffs on the three largest US trading partners, Canada and Mexico announced their own plans for retaliatory tariffs on the US. Outgoing Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said late on Saturday that Canada will respond by placing 25% counter-tariffs on C$155 billion ($107 billion) worth of American-made products, with items including beer, wine, bourbon, fruits, fruit juices, vegetables, clothes, perfume, household appliances, plastic, and lumber subject to tariffs. Hilariously, Canada is going especially hard after alcohol produced in Republican states...

And just like that, the Trump trade wars have officially (re)started.

As was widely previewed yesterday, President Trump unleashed the first salvo of his latest trade war with tariffs of 25% on Canada and Mexico and 10% on China, the start of a wave of promised trade barrages against both foreign adversaries and allies.



Trump signed orders for the tariffs around 5pm ET on Saturday; they will go into effect on Tuesday, at which point they will likely escalate in tit-for-tat fashion until something breaks.

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According to a fact sheet published by the White House, the tariffs are in response to the "extraordinary threat posed by illegal aliens and drugs" such as fentanyl, which constitute a national emergency under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act.



Perhaps the only difference from what was previously leaked is that energy imports from Canada will be spared from the full 25% levy and will face a 10% tariff. The White House officials said that was intended to minimize upward pressure on gasoline and home-heating oil prices.

The orders also include retaliation clauses that would increase US tariffs if the countries respond in kind. The tariffs issued on Saturday will be on top of existing trade levies on those countries.





The order also revoked the so-called de minimis exemption for small parcels and packages, one official said, which will apply tariffs more widely to small shipments and impact e-commerce and online retailing. The US loses a tremendous amount of tariff revenue by using the exemption, one official said.

The three targeted countries are the largest three sources of US imports, accounting for almost half of total volume.

The decision is intended to have sharp economic impacts for the nations targeted; it will likely also impact the US depending on how much of the tariff-related price increases are passed through.

Parts of the US, including the Pacific Northwest and Northeast US, are deeply reliant on electricity or gas flows from Canada. And oil industry advocates have warned against even a 10% increase in the cost of crude inputs into Midwestern refineries that have few near-term options to substitute with US supplies.

For context, over 60% of US crude imports comes from Canada, so a 10% tariff on oil imports will lead to a prompt increase in the price of diesel which is the backbone of the US economy. Depending on the mood of the Fed on any given day, that may be seen as inflationary and lead to rate hikes in the near future.



Markets have been gripped by uncertainty as they awaited Trump’s decision on the tariffs and there are looming questions about how the levies will impact stocks.

In the 10 days since Trump’s initial tariff threat on his first full day in office, the S&P 500 Index was essentially flat while equity benchmarks in Europe, Canada and Mexico were all higher. The Nasdaq Golden Dragon Index — comprised of companies that do business in China but trade in the US — jumped more than 4%.

According to Bloomberg, automakers such as General Motors Co., Ford Motor Co. and Stellantis NV, which have global supply chains and massive exposure to Mexico and Canada, could see significant swings.

Needless to say, Trump's political opponents such as Jason Furman were quick to conclude that the market will punish what the Democrat economic advisor sees as bad economic and foreign policy.



Citing sources, Bloomberg writes that officials on the call Saturday justified the tariffs by citing the flow of fentanyl and other illegal drugs across the border, as well as illegal immigration. Sources added that Canada had been officially informed that the tariffs would be implemented on their goods on Tuesday.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is expected to speak on the tariffs after they are implemented on Saturday. Canada is set to impose retaliatory countertariffs, the nation’s natural resources minister said in an interview on Friday.

“We will focus on tariffing American good that actually are sold in significant quantities in Canada, and especially those for which there are readily available alternatives for Canadians,” Jonathan Wilkinson said.

Former Canadian Finance Minister Chrystia Freeland, who is among the candidates to succeed Justin Trudeau as prime minister, suggested hitting Trump ally Elon Musk directly by applying a 100% tariff on Tesla cars. That will hardly help de-escalate what is now officially the first trade war of Trump's second (technically third) term.

 

Polaris Reports "Alarming" 2025 EPS Outlook As RZR & ATV Demand Slide​

((Adjusted earnings per share (EPS) is a calculation that adjusts a company's earnings per share to account for unusual circumstances. It's a way to show a company's financial health more accurately by removing one-time gains and expenses.))

Tuesday, Jan 28, 2025 - 07:45 AM
Polaris shares fell 6% in premarket trading after the company, known for producing ATVs, UTVs, jet skis, and snowmobiles, surprised investors with guidance for a 65% year-over-year decline in adjusted EPS for 2025, coming in far below expectations.

Citi analyst James Hardiman told clients earlier that the downward revision was very "alarming," warning about President Trump's tariff battle with China could result in additional downward pressure for EPS for the full year.

"While management suggested on their 3Q call that a good starting point for 2025 EPS would be flat with 2024, which was guided to $3.25, at the time, management officially initiated 2025 adjusted EPS guidance at just $1.10," Hardiman said, adding his team maintained a "Neutral" rating on PII shares.

Polaris' Yearly Forecast (courtesy of Bloomberg):

  • Sees adjusted EPS about -65% from 2024's $3.25; estimate $3.06
  • Sees sales -1% to -4%
However, Polaris reported better-than-expected revenue in the fourth quarter, though sales fell 23% year-over-year to $1.76 billion. High interest rates deterred consumers from purchasing RZRs, Sportsman ATVs, and other offroad vehicles.



Here's a snapshot of the fourth quarter:

  • Sales $1.76 billion, -23% y/y, estimate $1.68 billion (Bloomberg Consensus)
  • Off Road sales $1.44 billion, -25% y/y, estimate $1.36 billion
  • On Road sales $180.8 million, -21% y/y, estimate $209.8 million
  • Marine sales $137.4 million, -4.1% y/y, estimate $118.3 million
  • Adjusted gross profit margin 21.1% vs. 20.8% y/y, estimate 21.3%
  • Cash and cash equivalents $287.8 million, -22% y/y, estimate $397.8 million
  • Adj. EPS 92c, estimate 90c
Covid bump ended in 4Q22.



Polaris's YoY revenue growth is the worst since GFC.



Bloomberg noted:

  • For 2025, expects margin headwinds from negative mix, planned reductions in production leading to negative absorption in addition to the restoration of the company's employee profit- sharing program
  • Primary factors affecting fourth-quarter sales were lower volume due to planned reductions in shipments as we actively managed dealer inventory in a subdued retail environment
Shares are back to Covid crash levels.

Bottoming fishing is a dangerous game...



Several months ago, Polaris CEO Mike Speetzen warned that "consumer confidence and retail demand remained challenging."

The new tariffs could be a life line to Polaris. That's exactly how they are designed to work. With Polaris being an American company, hopefully they will be fast tracking to have all their parts manufactured in the US. Been on doos since 96 and Poos for 10 years prior. I buy a new sled every year for me and a new one every 2 years for my wife. I will gladly buy Polaris sleds. It would have been much easier for Canada to just secure their border. But with their little man in charge, Canadians are going to suffer. Just my observation, but, if I was a skilled Canadian (welder, pipefitter, electrician, plumber, lineman, sub tech, iron worker, etc.) I would start looking at migrating to the US to live. The US is about to become the envy of the world with a leader that loves his country and it's people. Plus, you Canadians can finally support good hockey teams.
 
The new tariffs could be a life line to Polaris. That's exactly how they are designed to work. With Polaris being an American company, hopefully they will be fast tracking to have all their parts manufactured in the US. Been on doos since 96 and Poos for 10 years prior. I buy a new sled every year for me and a new one every 2 years for my wife. I will gladly buy Polaris sleds. It would have been much easier for Canada to just secure their border. But with their little man in charge, Canadians are going to suffer. Just my observation, but, if I was a skilled Canadian (welder, pipefitter, electrician, plumber, lineman, sub tech, iron worker, etc.) I would start looking at migrating to the US to live. The US is about to become the envy of the world with a leader that loves his country and it's people. Plus, you Canadians can finally support good hockey teams.
Our little man is leaving very soon (not soon enough) and with good reason - he is every bit of a lying narcissist as Trump - cut from the same cloth. Orange man "re-negotiated" usmca free trade (NAFTA 2.0) in his last term and then tore it up ...so much for being a man of his word. Border was / is a red herring as most **** (guns & drugs) have been flowing north across our border from us and not the other way round as Trump likes to surmise.
I couldn't give two fks about hockey. With all due respect to the wonderful America people, we have zero interest in becoming Mericans. Canada, Mexico & China just told Trump to take his thumb and shove it up his ass. Overseas markets will open soon and not long after the Dow ...by all reports it's not going to be pretty... guessing a lot of other people not going to be happy with DT come Monday....
 
Keep buying golden shoes, bibles and MAGA hats made in China. We will see where we will all be in a year and I am betting the rich will still be richer and most of us won't be.
 
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