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Pilot

Used to fly:

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and

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and in a few more short months, will start in this:

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or this

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HOPEFULLY transition to this

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and end up in this:

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you know how you're at a party with a pilot?


don't worry, he'll tell you. :D
 
Tell me more

I dont just sell these I bought the company..j/k Lots of fun flying and selling these though.

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Tell me more about these do you need a poilts liencses to fly them. I want to get into flying nothing series by an means. Just myself in the plane. Looked into the ultralights a few years back. Looked like fun but didnt have the money. I kind of do now.
 
Tell me more about these do you need a poilts liencses to fly them. I want to get into flying nothing series by an means. Just myself in the plane. Looked into the ultralights a few years back. Looked like fun but didnt have the money. I kind of do now.

I've kicked the idea around of buying one for about 6 months now....still undecided. New mx bike or ultralight....hhhmmmmmmmmm! I can tell you that to be classified as a true ultralight it must meet FAA 103 regulations which in a nutshell is: it must be under 256 (I think) lbs dry, carry 5 gallons of fuel or less, carry one person, have a max stall speed of around 35 mph, as well as a few other guidelines. You don’t need a license to fly but it would be borderline suicidal to try and fly one without proper training (youtube “ultralight crash” and look for the video of the lady that thought she could fly one without any formal training). I have been looking at a challenger I and an areolite 103, found 4 different ones around the area ranging in price from $5000 to $8000. All have good fabric, low time, and BRS. If you get into something heavier, faster, or can carry two people it jumps up to the light sport category (LSA). This requires a DL to satisfy the medical part of it and pretty much the same amount of training as it takes to get your privates ( I believe about half the ground training and flying time). I talked to the local FBO and it would cost me about $1500 more to get my privates than my LSA certs so I would get the privates. I haven’t researched if there are any ramifications holding a privates or LSA when it comes to life insurance policies and all that though.
 
I'm single engine instrument rated with high performance endorsement...saving up for a Cirrus Sr20. I have a feeling I'll be saving a long time :(. I agree though...taking to the sky with anything without proper training is suicide.
 
I've kicked the idea around of buying one for about 6 months now....still undecided. New mx bike or ultralight....hhhmmmmmmmmm! I can tell you that to be classified as a true ultralight it must meet FAA 103 regulations which in a nutshell is: it must be under 256 (I think) lbs dry, carry 5 gallons of fuel or less, carry one person, have a max stall speed of around 35 mph, as well as a few other guidelines. You don’t need a license to fly but it would be borderline suicidal to try and fly one without proper training (youtube “ultralight crash” and look for the video of the lady that thought she could fly one without any formal training). I have been looking at a challenger I and an areolite 103, found 4 different ones around the area ranging in price from $5000 to $8000. All have good fabric, low time, and BRS. If you get into something heavier, faster, or can carry two people it jumps up to the light sport category (LSA). This requires a DL to satisfy the medical part of it and pretty much the same amount of training as it takes to get your privates ( I believe about half the ground training and flying time). I talked to the local FBO and it would cost me about $1500 more to get my privates than my LSA certs so I would get the privates. I haven’t researched if there are any ramifications holding a privates or LSA when it comes to life insurance policies and all that though.

Skip the LSA get your private, do 90 hours X country get IFR, fly ifr it makes you a better pilot.

I have 2800 hours Commercial, IFR multi.
 
Skip the LSA get your private, do 90 hours X country get IFR, fly ifr it makes you a better pilot.

I have 2800 hours Commercial, IFR multi.

I strongly disagree,

MOST guys I know that fly and I know alot fly as a hobby. There are a few exceptions but for the most part they are guys that want to take a fly over there corn or show there relatives the town from the air etc.. they dont need to be wasting there money on being the "super certified" pilot just to fly an ole J3 over the corn fields or enjoy the early morning air or late evening. Would it make a better pilot? why sure, do they need it? NO.


**edit, btw the MOST dangerous pilot is the one that thinks he is the most trained...I sold a Challenger to a fellow and he had his nephew come visit him. His credentials (Military CURRENT jet pilot) Results.............wiped out challenger in a corn field. I will see if I can dig up some pics for ya'll

**edit, 1000's and 1000's of hours company jet pilot for Pepsi corporation was a personal friend of mine and mentor, flew the CEO's in a lear around then would also fly there grand opening Cessna 180 banner puller airplane...DIED flying a Cessna 170 looking for a lost model airplane.. guess he couldnt handle low and slow.<<-----hated saying that but truth.

**edit, Watched a recently signed off complex aircraft pilot.......pile it up in a 210 after not understanding the load of 5 peeps on approach. <----------seen it!

**I will re-itterate the most dangerous pilots are the ones that feel most accomplished or at least somebody handed them a piece of paper that gave them false confidence. The guy that can fly an light weight airplane and knows it well will be alot better off not having a IFR rating to push him into trouble.
 
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Please get a little training at least. Learn the traffic patterns and know how to use the radios correctly. A couple of times I've entered an airport like you're supposed to with a published traffic pattern and there has been an ultralight going the wrong direction or goofing off over the landing threshold. I'm burning 10 gal/hr. of $5 fuel and have to wait for them to get clear (and stay clear) enough to make a safe approach. I have nothing against ultralights, it just seems they don't watch out for traffic very well. Maybe it is the high wing and the low altitudes they usually are at. But there is one local guy that flys one and has a handheld radio and actually uses it and has nice strobes too!

usually fly a PA28-181
sometimes fly a C172
sometimes fly a S-35
 
I strongly disagree,

MOST guys I know that fly and I know alot fly as a hobby. There are a few exceptions but for the most part they are guys that want to take a fly over there corn or show there relatives the town from the air etc.. they dont need to be wasting there money on being the "super certified" pilot just to fly an ole J3 over the corn fields or enjoy the early morning air or late evening. Would it make a better pilot? why sure, do they need it? NO.


**edit, btw the MOST dangerous pilot is the one that thinks he is the most trained...I sold a Challenger to a fellow and he had his nephew come visit him. His credentials (Military CURRENT jet pilot) Results.............wiped out challenger in a corn field. I will see if I can dig up some pics for ya'll

**edit, 1000's and 1000's of hours company jet pilot for Pepsi corporation was a personal friend of mine and mentor, flew the CEO's in a lear around then would also fly there grand opening Cessna 180 banner puller airplane...DIED flying a Cessna 170 looking for a lost model airplane.. guess he couldnt handle low and slow.<<-----hated saying that but truth.

**edit, Watched a recently signed off complex aircraft pilot.......pile it up in a 210 after not understanding the load of 5 peeps on approach. <----------seen it!

**I will re-itterate the most dangerous pilots are the ones that feel most accomplished or at least somebody handed them a piece of paper that gave them false confidence. The guy that can fly an light weight airplane and knows it well will be alot better off not having a IFR rating to push him into trouble.


Yah people are stupid, there are bold pilots and old pilots, but no bold and old pilots. Good pilots and bad pilots are going to crash and burn it happens.

For my type of flying, typically 350-500 miles trips. I fly IFR 99% of the time. Fly into busy class b or c airspace on a ifr flight plan, and then try it on a vfr looking for flight following. IFR gets you in and out quicker, when I'm going to a meeting thats a plus.

But if you are going to fly a cub on sundays over the corn field in clear weather, hey knock your self out, but don't condem someone for wanting to improve there skills by getting additional ratings. By flying IFR all the time I don't hesitate to fly in to busy airspance and deal with tracons.

I got my multi on a weekend for something to do, I don't every plan on owning a twin, but it was fun to fly 10 hours in a barron and learn about flying a twin.

670CS squaking 1200 see yah later tower :D
 
I strongly disagree,

MOST guys I know that fly and I know alot fly as a hobby. There are a few exceptions but for the most part they are guys that want to take a fly over there corn or show there relatives the town from the air etc.. they dont need to be wasting there money on being the "super certified" pilot just to fly an ole J3 over the corn fields or enjoy the early morning air or late evening. Would it make a better pilot? why sure, do they need it? NO.


**edit, btw the MOST dangerous pilot is the one that thinks he is the most trained...I sold a Challenger to a fellow and he had his nephew come visit him. His credentials (Military CURRENT jet pilot) Results.............wiped out challenger in a corn field. I will see if I can dig up some pics for ya'll

**edit, 1000's and 1000's of hours company jet pilot for Pepsi corporation was a personal friend of mine and mentor, flew the CEO's in a lear around then would also fly there grand opening Cessna 180 banner puller airplane...DIED flying a Cessna 170 looking for a lost model airplane.. guess he couldnt handle low and slow.<<-----hated saying that but truth.

**edit, Watched a recently signed off complex aircraft pilot.......pile it up in a 210 after not understanding the load of 5 peeps on approach. <----------seen it!

**I will re-itterate the most dangerous pilots are the ones that feel most accomplished or at least somebody handed them a piece of paper that gave them false confidence. The guy that can fly an light weight airplane and knows it well will be alot better off not having a IFR rating to push him into trouble.

I disagree with your opinion. The training you receive in order to fly in IMC greatly enhances your skills and knowledge. Those attributes may save your life one day weather you think you need it or not. It's better to have a tool you don't need than to need a tool you don't have. A "super certified" pilot is no excuse for complacency.
 
I strongly disagree,

MOST guys I know that fly and I know alot fly as a hobby. There are a few exceptions but for the most part they are guys that want to take a fly over there corn or show there relatives the town from the air etc.. they dont need to be wasting there money on being the "super certified" pilot just to fly an ole J3 over the corn fields or enjoy the early morning air or late evening. Would it make a better pilot? why sure, do they need it? NO.


**edit, btw the MOST dangerous pilot is the one that thinks he is the most trained...I sold a Challenger to a fellow and he had his nephew come visit him. His credentials (Military CURRENT jet pilot) Results.............wiped out challenger in a corn field. I will see if I can dig up some pics for ya'll

**edit, 1000's and 1000's of hours company jet pilot for Pepsi corporation was a personal friend of mine and mentor, flew the CEO's in a lear around then would also fly there grand opening Cessna 180 banner puller airplane...DIED flying a Cessna 170 looking for a lost model airplane.. guess he couldnt handle low and slow.<<-----hated saying that but truth.

**edit, Watched a recently signed off complex aircraft pilot.......pile it up in a 210 after not understanding the load of 5 peeps on approach. <----------seen it!

**I will re-itterate the most dangerous pilots are the ones that feel most accomplished or at least somebody handed them a piece of paper that gave them false confidence. The guy that can fly an light weight airplane and knows it well will be alot better off not having a IFR rating to push him into trouble.

I can identify, I almost ended up with an ultralight that a guy wanted to sell cheap but it didn't have ailerons. You're better off learning to fly one of those as a beginner rather than unlearn something you've wired into your muscle memory. BTW, an IFR rating doesn't push you into trouble if you don't try to use it to get through bad weather with a fair-weather airplane.
 
I knew this was a sensative subject to GA guys. Dont confuse my statements with less training is better. My position is that you need to get the training required to do what your intentions are. I have plenty of hours in GA airplanes and think getting your pilots license is a fine idea. BUT the statement that getting higher certifications makes you a better pilot is where I dis-agreed.

As matter of fact the heavy iron drivers have a serious disadvantage to light aircraft and the capabilities. If a highly trained high hours jet pilot came to me and said he wanted some seat time in a Challenger ultralight you can bet he will be paying for at least an hour of dual if not 2 before he is cut loose. Now a "good" pilot knows this in any transition of type but the ones that make statements that "Im highly trained and certified makes me a better pilot" are most dangerous.
 
I strongly disagree,
**edit, btw the MOST dangerous pilot is the one that thinks he is the most trained...I sold a Challenger to a fellow and he had his nephew come visit him. His credentials (Military CURRENT jet pilot) Results.............wiped out challenger in a corn field. I will see if I can dig up some pics for ya'll


My Uncle, 1000's hours in his own planes always told me. "Once you know it all, its time to stop flying."
 
"I'm highly trained and certified makes me a better pilot" are most dangerous.

Anybody who is over confident in any field is dangerous.

How many "I'm highly trained and certified pilots" do you run into?

To say I'm highly trained is silly because I have a comm multi IFR rating. It makes my insurance cheaper on my plane and the planes I rent. I like to fly and enjoy the challenge of new ratings, maybe someday I'll get a PC-12 N2 :D

The cockpit is a constant learning enviroment, if you think you know everything you need to get out

Yes, if you fly .92 Mach all day and twice a year hop in a cub to fly low and slow probably not the wisest thing to do, but most accidents I read about are by under trained pilots getting into situations they can't handle. IE flying in to storms, getting spatial disorientation in the clouds, flying in to water (JFK Jr) or not understanding weight and balance.

I would never hop in to a plane declare I'm highly trained and certified pilot and fly off in to the wild blue yonder with out a couple of hours with a competent instructor, all planes fly different.

To me being IFR is like carring a beacon, Do you hit the mountains with out your beacon? Do you tell people they should never go in with out a beacon and know how to properly use it?
 
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