Who here is going with the PID display? Does is show "out of bounds" wilderness areas or just the trails?
PID or No PID
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I absolutely love this display.
To answer your question. No.
The displays strengths are not in geographically navigating on the fly.
You can however, plan a trip on your computer at your house using google earth and rider x software and then plug that trip into your sled as a general guide to a trip.
Also great for keeping track of your rides and comparing to "connect some dots" in the backcountry. I've heard guys bash this guage! I can't believe it. I think maybe the problem is they don't use it to the fullest extent possible.
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To answer your question. No.
The displays strengths are not in geographically navigating on the fly.
You can however, plan a trip on your computer at your house using google earth and rider x software and then plug that trip into your sled as a general guide to a trip.
Also great for keeping track of your rides and comparing to "connect some dots" in the backcountry. I've heard guys bash this guage! I can't believe it. I think maybe the problem is they don't use it to the fullest extent possible.
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From what I understand, it really does not compare to a Garmin unit, especially when talking about Birdseye. I have 12 years of track data that I don't think I could load directly into a PID. For me, I'd rather spend my money on an upgrade from a zumo 660, if they ever get Birdseye on it. Just my thoughts.
Right now running rino and zumo.
Now for diagnostics, I've heard the PID is better than the standard.
Right now running rino and zumo.
Now for diagnostics, I've heard the PID is better than the standard.
Tuning in the clutching mode is another huge plus with the PIDD
Only down fall with it, is finding a program to download my recorded trip to-- allowing me to review where we were on a topo or google earth or some other program to correlate exactly where we were- and the new area we ventured off into....... Unless I am missing something here..
For diagnostics.. yep hands down light years above what we had previous
But for sure it got us out of a white out situation more than once this year.
Love a topo function but, IMHO being able to look at a good screen while your driving in zero visibility gives you a comfort feeling for sure vs. a GPS hand held stopping and looking.
Worth the investment I feel and glad I did
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Only down fall with it, is finding a program to download my recorded trip to-- allowing me to review where we were on a topo or google earth or some other program to correlate exactly where we were- and the new area we ventured off into....... Unless I am missing something here..
For diagnostics.. yep hands down light years above what we had previous
But for sure it got us out of a white out situation more than once this year.
Love a topo function but, IMHO being able to look at a good screen while your driving in zero visibility gives you a comfort feeling for sure vs. a GPS hand held stopping and looking.
Worth the investment I feel and glad I did
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ran one on my 15' and then got it with my 16 also. i like. like others have said, it doesn't have tons of bells and whistles...but theres no clusterbomb mounting it up, hard wiring, etc...it just works. And bonus is i run my devices (go pro batteries, extra phone battery pack, etc..) off the USB pigtail.
mainly use it for tracks, getting out of areas that i got into...specially in low vis.
mainly use it for tracks, getting out of areas that i got into...specially in low vis.
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bailer
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I went with the standard guage, and use my cellphone mounted for gps. I find this works good because I use the gps year round on my bikes and quad, so no trouble having to re-learn different systems.
If you do go with the PID, I think it sounds like you should do e-start as well so the gps maintains power while you do quick stops of the engine.
If you do go with the PID, I think it sounds like you should do e-start as well so the gps maintains power while you do quick stops of the engine.
Personally, I think it comes down to price point.
The price is not worth what you get, especially for someone who rides backcountry. Maybe for a trail rider but even that I'm not sold on, but then again, I hate trails......
We have one guy in our group that has one, and several us have the Garmin Rhino's. For actual mapping use, their is no comparison, I would much rather have my Garmin, plus I can use it on another sled, and or another recreational vehicle.
The price is not worth what you get, especially for someone who rides backcountry. Maybe for a trail rider but even that I'm not sold on, but then again, I hate trails......
We have one guy in our group that has one, and several us have the Garmin Rhino's. For actual mapping use, their is no comparison, I would much rather have my Garmin, plus I can use it on another sled, and or another recreational vehicle.
I think the PIDD is pretty handy. The diagnostic capability is nice, and the GPS is handy for finding your way back to the trail. I still need to read through the manual and figure out all the features, somthing to do this summer... that being said, if it wasn't on the used Axys I bought, I probably wouldn't have paid extra to snowcheck it and wouldn't miss it too much.
Have you gone onto Rider X website and utilized their plan a ride tool. You can use that same Application to download your rides onto their server and look at the satellite picture to get your bearings. Its a little bit of a pain the first couple of times but you get the hang of it pretty quick. Really has made me more aware of where I am when I am riding as I can't navigate myself out of a wet paper bag.
Not true. The gps fires up relatively quickly and retains all previous tracks and waypoints.
If you don't like the fact that it fires up every time then you can use the battery harness and a small battery to power the gauge. Did this on mine w/out electric start and it works awesome.
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izzni
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I'm finally finishing up the gauge system that I've been working on for a couple years now. It has aerial imagery and topographic lines, which makes it a much better fit for replacing a Garmin device.
I'll be announcing it for real in a few months. I'm finishing up the hardware changes I made since last season, and I'm creating different display layouts that have larger gauge faces.
http://www.nextstagegauges.com/ns1-gauge-system
I'll be announcing it for real in a few months. I'm finishing up the hardware changes I made since last season, and I'm creating different display layouts that have larger gauge faces.
http://www.nextstagegauges.com/ns1-gauge-system
I started using my Garman base camp and it does OK- but not was well as a topo and it should. I have done the plan a ride- but didn't know you could download you recorded ride to it-
Thanks I will try it!
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I love the PIDD! I've never rode with any kind of gps before and tried my best to not get lost. Not once did I think I was lost, or even worry about being lost with the PIDD. To me the extra $ is worth it, and you don't have to carry any extra devices, batteries etc.
I've been patiently waiting for this to go onto the market. You keep saying - just a bit longer though.
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izzni
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Completely understand your frustration. I work on it as a part time thing, so unforeseen events throw a wrench in timing quite easily. That being said, I really didn't start on the Polaris support until Spring of 2015 due to another product that I started working on after I first mentioned the gauge system a couple years ago.
The were issues I ran into that prevented release this season were:
-Waterproofing wasn't adequate without extensive silicone usage. Ended up redesigning the gauge so that the indicators were put back on the mount, since they were causing the screen gasket to leak and increased assembly time.
-The cable that connected to the display required an hour and a half to build, and needed a special adapter in order to charge or connect the display to a computer. Just finished modifying the design so that a simple USB cable is used instead.
-I had Bluetooth connection problems that I've just recently resolved. Turned out to be specific to 800s, but I couldn't with a straight face sell them without that issue resolved.
-Busier than average season when it came to the Arctic Cat reflashes. Took up 3/4ths of my time for about 4 months.
I know, sounds like a whole bunch of excuses. That being said, I'm actually confident that I'll be taking orders around mid-July, with the first deliveries at the end of August.
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I understand, PM me when it's ready to support an Axys, I'll be your first customer to buy it when it's sold to the public.
Well worth the wait to get the bugs all gone and you know we will cry/ so getting it 100% is worth the wait- I have other sleds w/o PIDD
Sure like to have this a bit portable - Quick detach so it can be used in RZR application's in the off season.. ( Hint Hint) maybe a main base plate that it can be attached/ detached to for EZ transformations!!
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Sure like to have this a bit portable - Quick detach so it can be used in RZR application's in the off season.. ( Hint Hint) maybe a main base plate that it can be attached/ detached to for EZ transformations!!
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izzni are you still planning on incorporating a radio transponder into the gauge?
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izzni
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Very much so, although the display just shows the out of the transponder. The actual radio transponder is a separate piece of hardware that the display connects to wirelessly. It's been a bit of a background project lately, but I'm in the process of switching the microcontroller to something more up to date to speed up its development.
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