in the new stimulus plan there is a bill inlcuded to close 2,000,000 acres to ORV,s. Whitch will most likely pass under our democatic run houses. I hope the Major motorized corporation will get involved to fight this. Because it looks like they are going to get screwed.
our grand stimulus plan
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Rider growth!
Got to introduce folks from diff. backgrounds into the industry, tons of people whom have never experienced any sort of powersport might see the light and join our fight.
Got to introduce folks from diff. backgrounds into the industry, tons of people whom have never experienced any sort of powersport might see the light and join our fight.
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Thanks for the info. I work for the railroad and some of these guys are crazy demc. because of the union. I for one do not care for their views. I told the rep we will be losing gun rights, and land open to the public. He said it was all hype and that people like me blow things out of proportion.
Well now we have the dems. working on the ammunition accountability act, and now this land closure laced in with the stimulus plan just to get it passed!
Well now we have the dems. working on the ammunition accountability act, and now this land closure laced in with the stimulus plan just to get it passed!
So how does closing 2,000,000 acres stimulate the economy?
If you want to do something that has an effect... Here's a link to voice your opposition to this legislation. Only takes a few seconds to complete.
http://www.arra-access.com/campaign/advocacy_nlcs_omnibus_s22
http://www.arra-access.com/campaign/advocacy_nlcs_omnibus_s22
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If we can organize for the fate of the Hawk, then we can do anything!
If we can organize for the fate of the Hawk, then we can do anything!
It does nothing. but Nancy is loading this thing with all the dems special interest because they can push this stuff through with out any fight. Because the President will sign anything that comes accross his desk.
If thats true I'll be typing his impeachment card. Hail Obama . Impeachment needs to happen soon .
dont these idiots ever drive through any town in any state across america and see a motorcycle, snowmobile or atv dealership? they cant see the need for this in our great economy and the need for open land to ride.close the land,close the dealers, close the country. im movin in with "circus bear" . where the heck is my stimulous package, i want a 20g hawk to help the canadian economy...
Shawn Hannity brought it up today on his show. The Pork The "ORV restoration bill" More money to spend on Hiking shoes, and Tents.
Less Money
Motorcycles, Quads, snowmobiles, Campers, Trailer, protective clothing, Parts, and Tabs. O we will still have to pay for tabs.
Less Money
Motorcycles, Quads, snowmobiles, Campers, Trailer, protective clothing, Parts, and Tabs. O we will still have to pay for tabs.
Don't fall for the political hype. Read it yourself and decide based on what you see before nasaying it as a negative to sledding.
I found nothing about closing all those acres or closure to off-road vehicles so far.
Here is the house version:
http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/hr1_engrossed.pdf
Here is the senate version:
http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/senatestimamendment.pdf
Check out page 150 and on in the House version.
For an additional amount for ‘‘Construction’’,
$325,000,000, for priority road, bridge, and trail repair
or decommissioning, critical deferred maintenance
projects, facilities construction and renovation, hazardous
fuels reduction, and remediation of abandoned mine or
well sites:
Lots in there for the National Parks and Forest. I see it as a plus to the National Forest and Parks system. The restorations mentioned are about watersheds like the Everglades in Florida.
Based on the Senate version it looks like the trails and parks stuff may have been cut in the compromise demanded by the Republicans to reduce the total cost.
I found nothing about closing all those acres or closure to off-road vehicles so far.
Here is the house version:
http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/hr1_engrossed.pdf
Here is the senate version:
http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/senatestimamendment.pdf
Check out page 150 and on in the House version.
For an additional amount for ‘‘Construction’’,
$325,000,000, for priority road, bridge, and trail repair
or decommissioning, critical deferred maintenance
projects, facilities construction and renovation, hazardous
fuels reduction, and remediation of abandoned mine or
well sites:
Lots in there for the National Parks and Forest. I see it as a plus to the National Forest and Parks system. The restorations mentioned are about watersheds like the Everglades in Florida.
Based on the Senate version it looks like the trails and parks stuff may have been cut in the compromise demanded by the Republicans to reduce the total cost.
I did searches on this and found nothing in the bills. Where did you see this?
It doesnt matter what you see. Its what they do .Albeit that you cant ride where you used to as well . " Don't think they are at ease .
i'm pretty sure you have the stimulus bill mixed up with the omnibus bill, which is being looked at the same time but has no relation. the stimulus bill actually has 25 million dollars for ATV trail creation.
the omnibus is serious, we do all need to fight that. check with the Blue Ribbon Coalition.
That sounds like typical government. One bill spends money to build trails, and the other bill closes that land to ORV's. That would be pretty funny, if it wasn't so tragic.
Watch the senate on Cspan hash it out. I hope you are right, but with the new administration we are in big trouble. personly I care more about my bike trails than sled trails.
yeah. sleds seem to have it a lot better than dirt bikers. even quads get better treatment than us. at least where i'm from. In vermont you can go anywhere by sled. theirs millions of miles of trails. there is about half that in the summer for ATVs but it's still not bad. I don't really know if dirt bikes are allowed on the ATV trails, but there is no single track or anything like that. In quebec it's worse. Dirt bikes aren't allowed anywhere. Quads are just starting to be seen as a economic resource, and the trail infrastructure has doubled for them in recent years, but dirt bikes aren't allowed on any ATV trails. they aren't classified the same. of course, in Quebec u can go just about anywhere (or more) that a car can go.
but we all need to work together as powersports enthusiasts and cover everyones ***. we can't let them have an inch in any area. We also need to be responsible and use common sense.
but we all need to work together as powersports enthusiasts and cover everyones ***. we can't let them have an inch in any area. We also need to be responsible and use common sense.
I am a trail Poacher, but as my kids get older I cant always go out and risk getting in trouble with them. That is one of the reason I like the Hawk I dont need a managed or cleared trail.
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