Dave, Thank you! hard to imagine that 5 years after we lost Dave reading this thread would still reduce me to tears. I know a lot of folks but you'd be my friend for sure the way you think, Dave. Rob (F-bomb) nailed it. Sitting in McCall with Animal's wife and kids while we all tried to cope, changed forever how I ride. I have ever since tried to convey that lesson to anyone who would listen as my way of honoring my friend's life. Sunridge and I talked tonight sadly after today's events unfolded. Our hearts still break every time there is a slide but there is a glimmer of hope that people have listened, people have modified their riding and that people are on the whole more safe now because of the hard lessons learned. thank you for your heartfelt letter. It is one more reason I will never be in a slide nor will anyone I am with. God willing.