this is why we need solar and nuke to make the energy needed to extract hydrogen and not incrase pollution .And oh yeah I want my ethnanol made only from Iowa corn!
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this is why we need solar and nuke to make the energy needed to extract hydrogen and not incrase pollution .And oh yeah I want my ethnanol made only from Iowa corn!
He's also a pretty good swimmer
It is interesting to watch the talking heads.
Even some dems are starting to question why their leadership won't allow drilling.
I get all the enviro e-mails and such (keeping an eye on the enemy as it twer). They are absolutely terrified they are losing the drilling arguement. As more and more evidence is presented to show just how much oil is in US control, they are sending out weekly requests to call all the dems to try and shore up thier backbone.
As the price of oil goes up, the dollar value goes down and the politicians are starting to get worried.
More and more reporters are starting to point out that the dems are in control of the economy, drilling and commerce. The Dems are trying their best to deflect the whole arguement by saying the Republicans are helping the fat cat oil companies.
Kind of hard to push that when the oil fat cats are telling the dems to let them drill and their profits will fall accordingly.
What I would really like is for people to wake up and see through the "big oil" fallacy.
ExxonMobil, the largest US producer, only produced something like %3 of the world's crude oil last year ...
"Big Oil" doesn't exist anymore, at least not in the way the media and the liberals portray it.
They try to spin it like it's still the 1920's and Standard Oil controls %10 of the US economy or something
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Ollie
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We spend more on welfare and give aways to 3rd world countries than the war.
The war in and of itself has zero to do with the economy right now.
The economy has been tanking since about 96. With the boom of the online companies and the millionairs it created it led to a massive boom in the economy. This was followed by a huge upspike in buying and building.
The younger generation started over reaching what they could afford. This was helped by morgage lenders, credit card scams and over generous credit limits.
When dot com went bust millions of people discovered they were in trouble. The housing market was skyrocketing on the lower interest rates offered by the government to try and shore up the dot com crash in relation to the overall economy.
Unfortunetly a lot of people refinance their homes and bought new homes on these shady morgages. This led to massive debt and no way out. People started living on their credit cards. Shuffling balance amounts from card to card to try and buy time. They just dug a deeper hole.
Toss into this Katrina and the destruction of a lot of the drilling platforms in the gulf of mexico.
The cost of oil started going up. This is the part I find interesting.
According to the talking heads we have a massive shortfall of oil and that is the reason for the high costs. Yet you can track the skyrocketing cost of oil right back to katrina. I don't believe things "just happen". The market saw an opportunety and jumped on it and are riding it to the top.
The higher fuel prices has driven the price of everything up. From food costs to shoes.
As for the dems beating the war drum, of cource they are. They are trying to do everything in their power to make the war as bad as possible. that is what put them in power and since they have NOTHING else, they will use it.
My fellow Americans
Our great country is founded on capitalism. Economics attempts to analyze capitalism. Let's apply economics to our current energy situation.
A. Drilling for oil should increase supply, and as you should know, increased supply leads to LOWER prises.
B. The war is increasing demand. Anyone out there think all those trucks, tanks, etc are running on love and smiles? or even hate and frowns? And guess what? Increased demand leads to HIGHER prices.
Put aside your hatred for dems, obama or whatever and try to see this from a capitalist's eyes. It's your duty as an American.
Our great country is founded on capitalism. Economics attempts to analyze capitalism. Let's apply economics to our current energy situation.
A. Drilling for oil should increase supply, and as you should know, increased supply leads to LOWER prises.
B. The war is increasing demand. Anyone out there think all those trucks, tanks, etc are running on love and smiles? or even hate and frowns? And guess what? Increased demand leads to HIGHER prices.
Put aside your hatred for dems, obama or whatever and try to see this from a capitalist's eyes. It's your duty as an American.
False
There are FAR better ways to make Ethanol than from corn.
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Ollie
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Total Defense spending for the year 2007 was 653.9 billion
Total welfare spending for the year 2007 was 253.4 billion
http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/welfare_spending_40.html#usgs302
Total government spending on foreign aid for 2007 was approx. 31 billion.
http://www.cagw.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=10265
The total cost of the war in iraq for the year 2007 was 173 billion and is expected to jump to over 200 billion in 2008.
http://articles.latimes.com/2007/sep/22/nation/na-warcosts22
So the end result.
Total financial cost of the iraq war for 2007 was 173 billion.
Total financial cost of welfare and foreign aid for 2007 was 284.3 billion.
So, TRUE.
U.S. Foreign Aid was $21 billion and some change.
http://www.globalissues.org/TradeRelated/Debt/USAid.asp#ForeignAidNumbersinChartsandGraphs
Your article was wrote on "Thursday, January 4, 2007 " so it was a guess, wrote 4 days into 2007. Mine is a real number from data that was acquired in April 2008.
In all honesty Welfare is a broad term so before I can give you an exact number, I would need a clarification on what you consider welfare.
What is categorized under your link: (I put if I think it should be included in parenthesis)
-Food Stamps (yes)
-Housing assistance (yes)
-Subsidized housing... Low income housing, mid income house, deed restricted housing, public grants etc (split, some of it is and some of it isn't)
-Education (before and after school programs, No)
-Unemployment... It is on there, but this is a State budget and most unemployment is paid for by the prior employer, so I really don't know what this number is.
-Public Health, (no) this is those get your cholesterol checked for $10, get your flu shot, get your eyes checked deals you see all the time.
Myths of Welfare:
https://www.msu.edu/user/skourtes/myths.html
Your Iraq number is on for cost spent, but it does not include any money for the long term: caring for wounded troops, rehab, moving out, etc. It also does not account for ANY of the money we spent in buying tanks, Hummers, Helicopters, etc, etc. At some point you have to figure that into the cost, for if you didn't spend on average of $700 Billion per year up to this point you couldn't do any of it.
Interesting read:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/17/business/17leonhardt.html
Iraq and Afghanistan have cost more than the Vietnam and Korean Wars Combined! That is after adjusting for inflation even.
Look at how long those two wars lasted us compared to the last 8 years we have done this in.
Hey, I agree with Afghanistan, but Iraq is killing this country. I think we will pay OVER $600 BILLION in interest on the Iraq war alone. (The Chinese LOVE us.)
http://www.globalissues.org/TradeRelated/Debt/USAid.asp#ForeignAidNumbersinChartsandGraphs
Your article was wrote on "Thursday, January 4, 2007 " so it was a guess, wrote 4 days into 2007. Mine is a real number from data that was acquired in April 2008.
In all honesty Welfare is a broad term so before I can give you an exact number, I would need a clarification on what you consider welfare.
What is categorized under your link: (I put if I think it should be included in parenthesis)
-Food Stamps (yes)
-Housing assistance (yes)
-Subsidized housing... Low income housing, mid income house, deed restricted housing, public grants etc (split, some of it is and some of it isn't)
-Education (before and after school programs, No)
-Unemployment... It is on there, but this is a State budget and most unemployment is paid for by the prior employer, so I really don't know what this number is.
-Public Health, (no) this is those get your cholesterol checked for $10, get your flu shot, get your eyes checked deals you see all the time.
Myths of Welfare:
https://www.msu.edu/user/skourtes/myths.html
Your Iraq number is on for cost spent, but it does not include any money for the long term: caring for wounded troops, rehab, moving out, etc. It also does not account for ANY of the money we spent in buying tanks, Hummers, Helicopters, etc, etc. At some point you have to figure that into the cost, for if you didn't spend on average of $700 Billion per year up to this point you couldn't do any of it.
Interesting read:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/17/business/17leonhardt.html
Iraq and Afghanistan have cost more than the Vietnam and Korean Wars Combined! That is after adjusting for inflation even.
Look at how long those two wars lasted us compared to the last 8 years we have done this in.
Hey, I agree with Afghanistan, but Iraq is killing this country. I think we will pay OVER $600 BILLION in interest on the Iraq war alone. (The Chinese LOVE us.)
Nyet to the wackos
Why is it that the top 4 enviro outfits have more lobbyists than the top 4-5 big oil? A couple years back I noticed that the Sierra club was worth $3.2 billion. Wowee it must cost lots of money to do environmental stuff! I sure would like to know just how much the legal proffesion is making off the enviros.
Nancy Pelosi, I cant even type her name without blowing chunks. I would like to ask her if she intends to completely bleed out whats left of the middle class or just sit there and look stupid. You go girl!
When did Iran fire missiles?
Why they fired them last week...oil went up 7-8 bucks too. The Iranians shot several of the Shahab-3 capable of reaching Israel with a nuclear device. They did however have one that didnt get off the ground but they photo-shoped the picture so the Joos would still be maximumly terrified. They even had Mackmood stand on a stool so he would appear more menacingly horrible.
Why is it that the top 4 enviro outfits have more lobbyists than the top 4-5 big oil? A couple years back I noticed that the Sierra club was worth $3.2 billion. Wowee it must cost lots of money to do environmental stuff! I sure would like to know just how much the legal proffesion is making off the enviros.
Nancy Pelosi, I cant even type her name without blowing chunks. I would like to ask her if she intends to completely bleed out whats left of the middle class or just sit there and look stupid. You go girl!
When did Iran fire missiles?
Why they fired them last week...oil went up 7-8 bucks too. The Iranians shot several of the Shahab-3 capable of reaching Israel with a nuclear device. They did however have one that didnt get off the ground but they photo-shoped the picture so the Joos would still be maximumly terrified. They even had Mackmood stand on a stool so he would appear more menacingly horrible.
The point i was trying to make is that bio fuels are not a dependable resource! You have to agree that it won't be long until thats not good enough for the enviro-nuts. its just like almost all of the echo tech junk the net result is little or no improvment. How is it good business to spend money on an inferior solution ?I would like to see my dollars spent reaserching real solutions not bandaids.
