Obama affecting my right to ride?

[Chazmanian]

Obama is closer to the Socialistic ideals than our last president is. His ideas only work until the checks are required from us. 2012 will swing the pendulum.

I would guess that the voters need to draw a line on how much Socialism is too much Socialism then?

IMO too much Socialism isnt really the Health care deal as much for me as it is the banks, the car companies, the AIG's, Etc..Etc...

I just dont buy into the whole too big to fail stance.

On the flipside I also do not buy into having guys like Rush Limbaugh or Glen Beck controlling or influencing in any way shape or form what the GOP should stand for or abide by....Hence I often get into conlicts here due to my Anti-Spin approach to the issues at hand.

The Tea-Partier approach will fail horrifically if thats the idea for 2012....It will be picked apart and shown as the hate mongering wierdness that is truly is. That could cost the GOP big in 2012.

 

[ruffryder]

Obama is closer to the Socialistic ideals than our last president is. His ideas only work until the checks are required from us. 2012 will swing the pendulum.

I think 2012 will be another defeat of the right. The right is splitting up, looking to re-identify itself. They are divided. 2016 will be when the right takes it back. They have a lot to learn until then. At least that is what I am thinking now.... Though come election time, anything can happen.

 

[Chazmanian]

I think 2012 will be another defeat of the right. The right is splitting up, looking to re-identify itself. They are divided. 2016 will be when the right takes it back. They have a lot to learn until then. At least that is what I am thinking now.... Though come election time, anything can happen.

Well looks like my guy Huckabee just lost any hopes at his shot....I actually like Mike Huckabee's lack of anger and wierdness. He strikes me a level headed solid guy.

I guess pardoning guys can come to bite ya' in the backside.

Mike is done.

 

[Cheney]

I would guess that the voters need to draw a line on how much Socialism is too much Socialism then? They have. The majority of Americans do not want gov run healthcare.

IMO too much Socialism isnt really the Health care deal as much for me as it is the banks, the car companies, the AIG's, Etc..Etc... So the health cars deal isn't socialism? The health care deal DWARFS the others in economy %.

I just dont buy into the whole too big to fail stance. You don't think the "health care deal" will be "too big to fail'?
On the flipside I also do not buy into having guys like Rush Limbaugh or Glen Beck controlling or influencing in any way shape or form what the GOP should stand for or abide by....Hence I often get into conlicts here due to my Anti-Spin approach to the issues at hand. So who exactly would you want explaining the GOP position? Liberals?

The Tea-Partier approach will fail horrifically if thats the idea for 2012....It will be picked apart and shown as the hate mongering wierdness that is truly is. That could cost the GOP big in 2012.

Like it did in 1994?

 

[Cheney]

Well looks like my guy Huckabee just lost any hopes at his shot....I actually like Mike Huckabee's lack of anger and wierdness. He strikes me a level headed solid guy.Hate to break it to ya sport, but Huckabee is a STRONG supporter of the "anger and weirdness" movement.

I guess pardoning guys can come to bite ya' in the backside.

Mike is done.

Yup, Mike is done. Thats what happens when conservatives do liberal things.

 

[Chazmanian]

I would guess that the voters need to draw a line on how much Socialism is too much Socialism then? They have. The majority of Americans do not want gov run healthcare. I'm curious as to whose polling data you used to make that statement.....Its all over the map.

Here are a few recent polls pick one and call it fact?:

In an extensive ABCNEWS/Washington Post poll, Americans by a 2-1 margin, 62-32 percent, prefer a universal health insurance program over the current employer-based system.http://abcnews.go.com/sections/living/US/healthcare031020_poll.html

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 41% of voters nationwide favor the health care reform plan proposed by President Obama and congressional Democrats. Fifty-three percent (53%) are opposed to it. Those figures include 22% who Strongly Favor the plan and 40% who are Strongly Opposed.
Support for the legislation is up three percentage points from a week ago.http://news.yahoo.com/s/rasmussen/20091130/pl_rasmussen/healthcareupdate20091130_1



Fifty-six percent said they supported a "public health insurance option" to compete with private plans. Fifty-seven percent support raising taxes on those with annual incomes over $280,000 to pay for the plan.
http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1913426,00.html



IMO too much Socialism isnt really the Health care deal as much for me as it is the banks, the car companies, the AIG's, Etc..Etc... So the health cars deal isn't socialism? The health care deal DWARFS the others in economy %. So lets abolish Medicare and Medicaid and turn it all over to the private Ins companies? No wait that wont work.....Old folks aint profitable. I dont like a public option but I'm not completely opposed to a trigger or opt in or out state by state deal. To many jobs being outsourced overseas or to Mexico and Canada due to this health care madness. Its broken and you know it.

I just dont buy into the whole too big to fail stance. You don't think the "health care deal" will be "too big to fail'? It already has.

On the flipside I also do not buy into having guys like Rush Limbaugh or Glen Beck controlling or influencing in any way shape or form what the GOP should stand for or abide by....Hence I often get into conlicts here due to my Anti-Spin approach to the issues at hand. So who exactly would you want explaining the GOP position? Liberals? How about some of our Republican elected officials? Is that too much to ask?

 

[Chazmanian]

Hate to break it to ya sport, but Huckabee is a STRONG supporter of the "anger and weirdness" movement.

I disagree. His levels of rhetoric and spin are not even close to the level of the typical crazed sign toting misinformed Teabagger.

Where do Tea-Baggers get all those derned signs? Are they all artists or??

 

[Wade]

I disagree. His levels of rhetoric and spin are not even close to the level of the typical crazed sign toting misinformed Teabagger.

Where do Tea-Baggers get all those derned signs? Are they all artists or??

Geeze, there's so much material, with the grave diggers we have in the whitehouse, even us toothless rednecks, can think up something to put on a sign.

 

[Chazmanian]

Geeze, there's so much material, with the grave diggers we have in the whitehouse, even us toothless rednecks, can think up something to put on a sign.

Imagine transposing a Joker face Obama onto a sign?

We have a TeaBagger in another thread who could not have graduated High School much less transpose photos from computers to big signs....

Then again stranger things have happened. Like this Magic Negro that somehow won the last election beating out a War Hero and a Genius from the great state of Alaska...What The?

 

[The Fourth Wolf]

As usual Ruffy is way off.

The 2010 mid-term elections will favor the GOP if history holds. In the House the Republicans will gain about 20 seats. The Dems will maintain control but committee compositions will change, and that's where the meat n' potatos work is done.

The Senate is where the teeter...totters

6 Republicans are leaving open seats
Voinovich of Ohio...advantage Dems
Bond of Missouri...advantage GOP
Martinez of Florida...advantage GOP
Brownback of Kansas...toss up
Gregg of New Hampshire...toss up
Bunning of Kentucky...advantage GOP

Most of the incumbents will be reelected on both sides BUT the Dems have more vulnerable incumbents than the GOP.

David Vitter(R) Lousiana
Got caught with hookers so he's probably done (but then again it is Louisiana we're talking about and they like a little crook in their politicians, and besides, playing with hookers proves he's wired correctly...)

Bob Burr(R) North Carolina
Coin Flip. Not a crook, not doing a bad job, just dull and not working the home crowd.

Arlen Specter(D) then(R) then(D) again Pennsylvania
Gone. Lemme say again, Ar...len Specter is dead as fried chicken.

Harry Reid(D) Nevada
Hanging by thread. He's the Senate Majority Leader so there shouldn't even be a challenger and yet Nevada Republicans are climbing over each other to run against him.

Chris Dodd(D) Connecticut
Gone. Captain Countrywide is taking the Friends of Angelo express right the hell out of the Senate.

Mike Bennett(D) Colorado
A nobody do-nothing. Faces a strong opponent in Ryan Frazier. Bennett's tied to Obama's popularity. If O stays strong Bennett probably hangs on.

Blanche Lincoln(D) Arkansas
Coin Flip. She voted for Obamacare and is threatened by a sub-40% approval rating, but faces no real challenger yet.

Barbara Boxer(D) California
The Bellowing Bimbo of the Senate may well have chastised her last General. Carly Fiorina (the woman who put HP back on top) is in the race and within 4 points at last polling. I'm calling this one for Fiorina 51% to 47%

On the long shot angle IF (big word "if) Hawaii's Daniel Inoyue(D) dies or retires (he's 86) then the GOP Governor Linda Lingle has the best shot of anyone to replace him. Inoyue is planning on dying first, so more than likely he'll get another term...easily.

My take: The Senate will break right in 2010 with the GOP gaining a net 3 seats to break the filibuster proof majority.

 

[The Fourth Wolf]

Imagine transposing a Joker face Obama onto a sign?
We have a TeaBagger in another thread who could not have graduated High School much less transpose photos from computers to big signs....

Then again stranger things have happened. Like this Magic Negro that somehow won the last election beating out a War Hero and a Genius from the great state of Alaska...What The?

Yeah, 'cause conservatives don't know about Kinko's...

 

[Chazmanian]

Yeah, 'cause conservatives don't know about Kinko's...

LOL! They all went down there together as there sure were lots of Neo-Cons with the same sign?

At least lets face the facts that there is some "Outside" money behind the protesting?

I thought Hannutty using archived video from the 9/12 project over the summer to show a bigger crowd on TV for that Bachman debacle last month was classic...Of course he got caught.

I laughed that one off until a few weeks later Faux news did the same again showing a last years video archieved campaign crowd at a this years Palin book signing....

There is money to made in Conservatism this year. I really need to capilize on an idea of some sort to market to the "Disillusioned and Disenfranchised" Fringe Far Right Conservative Teabag Folks so I too can become wealthy beyond my wildest dreams!!

Nice move on the book Guv' Palin. Thats a slick Gal there. Set for life now.

Any good business ideas besides hawking Gold and Seeds?

 

[Chazmanian]

Wait a sec....The guy up above who posted? He has a photo of Dick Cheney as his avatar and his login name at a snowmobile site is Cheney?

Thats kewl as heck.

 

[Wade]

Imagine transposing a Joker face Obama onto a sign?

We have a TeaBagger in another thread who could not have graduated High School much less transpose photos from computers to big signs....

Then again stranger things have happened. Like this Magic Negro that somehow won the last election beating out a War Hero and a Genius from the great state of Alaska...What The?

You do remember they stole that joker idea from the Bush face done earlier?

Actually, a lot of those teabaggers are engineers.

Nothing majic about the pres, the media got him elected.

 

[Chazmanian]

You do remember they stole that joker idea from the Bush face done earlier?

Actually, a lot of those teabaggers are engineers.

Nothing majic about the pres, the media got him elected.

I'm all in on the media "Fix" on the election as they certainly made the Palin/McCain ticket look like a fairly poor choice....

Dunno if I'm with you on the Engineers or highly edumacated Teabagger deal.....I swung through a Tea Party event recently. Lots of hate and devisiveness. Not much intelligencia hanging around that deal.

The folks there struck me as being not quite up to speed on reality...They all seemed trapped in Talk radio Spinville.

Glen Beck, Rush Limpbow, Sean Hannity is my hero kinda stuff. Little bit disturbing actually.

Michelle Malkin was a hottie though and watching her speak was worth wading through a sea of feverish Uber Conservatives!

I will be in line on the 8th here in the Springs to get a copy of Palins book signed for a friends Christmas gift....Maybe I can get a hug?

 

[ruffryder]

As usual Ruffy is way off.

My take: The Senate will break right in 2010 with the GOP gaining a net 3 seats to break the filibuster proof majority.

I am way off on discussing what we think is going to happen in the future? I guess I should have spent more money on my crystal ball, your seems to work better.

 

[The Fourth Wolf]

I am way off on discussing what we think is going to happen in the future? I guess I should have spent more money on my crystal ball, your seems to work better.

History and research isn't found off the cuff