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Nytro Mod handling issues - need advice

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twsandrew

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I got the T Nytro out on the maiden voyage with all the mods (EzRyde, Challenger Extreme 162, Fox floats up front, Simmons wide skis, Powermadd pivot riser) and it handles terribly. I am a big guy and have no problem throwing around a sled and I have to say it changed this sled from being the most tossable to the least. We had 85lbs in the Floats since I weight 245 so we too that down to 60 and it helped a little but it still requires both feet on one side and a whole lot of throttle for any lean or sidehilling. We had two other T Nytros out that were stock skid and suspension and they handled like a dream and all the riders agreed mine was way off. I am wondering if I should have done one mod at a time since I have talked to people who have all of these mods individually or if it is something easy. The sled seems to sit high in the front so I rechecked the p/n on the floats and the yami dealer says they are correct. Our next step is to take more air out of the floats and try the stock skis or put the simmons in one inch. The skid seems to be working as it should keep the front end down and the sled hooks up extremely well compared to the 153 but I am wondering if I need way more ski pressure with the floats. Need your opinions is it a combo of everything or one of the individuals. BTW - This is the best motor in any sled I have ever ridden. If there is lag I cannot for the life of me feel it. Tq curve is big block flat ;-)
 
I rode a Super charged Nytro with the stock skis and the Simmons wide skis.. It also had the timbersled skid.. I would try swapping those out and see if it makes a difference.. The one I rode with the skis made it a lot hard to side hill and throw it around.. When he took them off it was back to being a normal agile sled..

The one I rode has the barkbuster front end with floats, timbersled skid, light weight battery, super charger, the side exhaust the list goes on..
 
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I would start by making sure that pivot riser IS NOT cranked forward. I made that mistake. Mine has a lot better manners now. I also lowered my front floats a little and made a few other changes to the steering that i am going to try this weekend. It's getting better already. I have Timbersled in mine. The motor rocks (12-15lbs)
 
Two things I can tell you about your set up. One I am not a fan of any air shock on the front of a sled!! (Evols might be a fraction of an exception but I have never ran them) especially for big guys like us!! It takes tons of air to get the shock to run up in the stroke like it should which in turn makes the usable stroke very harsh. You feel like your bottoming at half stroke!! Sorry if you spent money on them but I would sell them and get a coil over shock!! Second would be the wide simmons are great at keeping the front up in the powder but they will take out the ability to toss the sled from side to side. This is based on my experience! Again money that I would not spend!!

I have an EZ-Ryde and I'm still making final adjustments. I am hoping to get it where I want it by the end of this weekend. Just for giggles put your sled on flat concrete and pick up the the back end of the sled/track so that it is all the way off the ground. Place it back down slowly and when the front paddles touch the ground how much space is between the back paddle and the ground??? In theory on a turbo the front would be 1/2 inch up when the back paddles touch.

Let me know??

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Do you still have the stabalizers in? I know some of the guys on tyfourstroke were removing there stabalizer when they installed the floats
 
I will try a few of these but I wondered about the riser. I have it about 20 degrees from straight up. Some have said it is great and other said it is bad. What is up with the pivot riser making the steering difficult?
 
I have also heard that the Gen II Simmons don't work on the Nytro like they do on other sleds. As for the Floats I have not heard one complaint about them on the MTX over at the TY forums..:)
 
The Fox floats can really be improved for anyone with the addition of external reservoirs. They work by increasing the total size of the air chamber, so you can run the higher air pressures that bigger guys need to keep their ride height, without having the air spring ramp up into the stiffer portion of its travel as quickly. (I hope that makes sense) Do a search on the forum, and there is lots of information about them.

Have Fun
 
The Fox floats can really be improved for anyone with the addition of external reservoirs. They work by increasing the total size of the air chamber, so you can run the higher air pressures that bigger guys need to keep their ride height, without having the air spring ramp up into the stiffer portion of its travel as quickly. (I hope that makes sense) Do a search on the forum, and there is lots of information about them.

Have Fun

I second that Holz uses it out back works like a charm. It allows you to adjust the progression with a secondary high pressure chamber.
 
A couple things. I tried the Simmons Gen II's and I did not like them on the Nytro. They made it to hard to pull over. I am not too big (165lbs) so I don't have a lot of lead in my butt either.

Also, as stated above, I think that the action of a coil over shock is better, especially for heavier riders.

I also noticed that when I extended the Nytro to 162" it made it a bit harder to pull over.

I am going to pull the swaybar out to see if that helps and will let you know.:face-icon-small-coo
 
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